Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

[ICB]

haha, how great Winky was is the exact reason it would push him over, that would be a huge win He fought well though and even that is a plus for him but obviously a clear win would be better. That and a Ike win would put him over Hatton, which after some reconsideration I think he might be anyway.

No offense, but I don't know how size can play a part in a P4P argument. Wlad's size and skill would really give him a good shot versus Fernando Montiel in a P4P fight I'm probably just misunderstanding you there. And I think P4P Floyd and Manny are too good for him, clearly. Of course I think Floyd and Manny are higher P4P than anybody Vargas fought, again clearly, except maybe in the case of Winky but I think they're also just worse matchups for Fernando than Winky.

My bad on the size part my mind was wondering there, but i agree on the rest. But i feel Fernando Vargas could still give both of them good arguments.

[OumaFan]

Well I don't think they'd KO him in one (and honestly I don't give a whole lot of thought to any P4P matches as they're a bit pointless) but Manny's hand speed, foot speed, movement and power would be rough on Vargas, and Floyd's skills, speed and even power would also be tough for Vargas.