Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

[Drago]

I say Haye has some success in the first 3 rds but Vitaly once he gets into the bout will beat him brutally, Vitaly has a real personal dislike for Haye and Vitaly has a hell of a mean streak for guys he doesnt like.

Anyone remember Sanders and Williams?

no but i remember chris byrd & lennox lewis

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

[DaxxKahn]

no but i remember chris byrd & lennox lewis

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

[Drago]

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

i know danny williams popped his shoulder out & still continued & knocked the other guy out! i really think vitali would of quit against lennox if hadnt been stopped as well.

[DaxxKahn]

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

i know danny williams popped his shoulder out & still continued & knocked the other guy out! i really think vitali would of quit against lennox if hadnt been stopped as well.

Hell mate I could not hold it against him if he did in that one, another round or two if Lennox did not drop from exaustion Vitaly would have went blind for certain

[AdamGB]

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

i know danny williams popped his shoulder out & still continued & knocked the other guy out! i really think vitali would of quit against lennox if hadnt been stopped as well.

I agree to an extent with you, Byrd physically is barely even a cruiser weight so he could of probably continued to boss him using the other arm.

On the other hand a shoulder injury can have serious long term reprecusions so maybe he did the sensible thing when trying not to be a hero. Williams really couldn't afford the loss on his record as I recall.

I am just starting to fully understand the extent of how injury prone Vitali is looking back at this though... 0_o

[JazMerkin]

Haye has a good couple of opening rounds, getting our hopes up, but Vitali starts to take control in the 4th & KO's him in the 7th.

[Kel]

I remember him winning against Byrd until the injury....

Lets not be silly Haye has power but he is in no way the puncher Lennox was

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

I'm not bashing Vitali for quitting but..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

[Drago]

thats the way to do it dannyboy

[DaxxKahn]

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

I'm not bashing Vitali for quitting but..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

Danny Williams is a brave fighter no doubt but still there was no reasonj to continue with that injury he was risking permemnent damage

Danny never did know when to quit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s1PIHQmMWo

[LEGION]

would it of been impossible for vitali to of continued against Bryd?

i agree Lewis hits harder than haye but haye should be more aggressive

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

I'm not bashing Vitali for quitting but..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

Thx. for posting that; 1st time I'd seen that......wow!!! Potter got ktfo by essentially an amputee A proud moment for Williams and his fans no doubt; not so much for Potter and Co.

[Majesty]

His shoulder was prettyt much shot cant remember if he had surgery or not but I remember it was useless at that point...

But again...

Haye is not the boxer Byrd was and it will be easier to find haye with the jab

I'm not bashing Vitali for quitting but..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

Thx. for posting that; 1st time I'd seen that......wow!!! Potter got ktfo by essentially an amputee A proud moment for Williams and his fans no doubt; not so much for Potter and Co.

Danny Williams the one armed boxer.

Where did THAT Danny Williams go? The exciting one with head movement and a good jab. The Danny Williams that wouldnt have been dominated so heavily by Vitali and knocked out by Harrison in 3 rounds or however long it was. Where was the Danny Williams that fought with one arm.. no won with one arm lol And is it me or did he all of a sudden become a better fighter when that arm left him?

[LEGION]

I'm not bashing Vitali for quitting but..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

Thx. for posting that; 1st time I'd seen that......wow!!! Potter got ktfo by essentially an amputee A proud moment for Williams and his fans no doubt; not so much for Potter and Co.

Danny Williams the one armed boxer.

Where did THAT Danny Williams go? The exciting one with head movement and a good jab. The Danny Williams that wouldnt have been dominated so heavily by Vitali and knocked out by Harrison in 3 rounds or however long it was. Where was the Danny Williams that fought with one arm.. no won with one arm lol And is it me or did he all of a sudden become a better fighter when that arm left him?

I thought the same thing when he went gimpy. Amazing how survival mode and heart can drive a person to amazing feats{or not}.

[Hunter]

Lets see here:

Haye is moving up from Cruiserweight where he beat mediocre opposition at best to become undisputed champ, has a shaky defense, comes in wild and throws looping punches, has power unproven at heavyweight, and has stamina issues.....oh yeah and doesnt have the best punch resistance....

Vitali - has never been down or even hurt from a punch (spagetti legged), patient, calculating, has solid technique, utilizes the jab well, has very good power, mentally tough, size and reach advantage....

I am not saying Vitali is by any means one of the best HW's of all time but he will steam roll Haye inside 5. I think Haye can possibly win a decision if he dances, moves, and uses punch and go. The problem is Haye has questionable stamina and gets drawn into wild exchanges and he will lose this battle.....