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We horribly disagree on this one, Game. HBO has been pushing Berto's agenda since Day One. Never mind how terrible he's looked in recent fights. (Once HBO puts its stamp on you, you're golden.)

Mosley is light-years ahead of Berto skillwise, and would blow the doors off the Berto bandwagon for all of his disappointed fans to see. It would be downright embarassing.
How is Mosley light years ahead of Berto skillwise? He has worse technique, doesn't throw combinations as well, his defense isn't any better, and he loads up on shots the same way. THe one big difference, possibly why Mosley will win is his durability, and Berto being to eager to throw down.

I said before I saw Berto beating Mosley, and I am sticking to it, I could definitely see Shane win, but I have a feeling Berto is just too fast, throws the right type of punches, and Mosley is really predictable.
With all due respect... ARE YOU ON DRUGS?!? Mosley has worse technique than Berto? Doesn't throw combinations as well? I usually disagree with you anyway, so this doesn't surprise me. You're talking an ATG here... a future Hall of Famer. Berto is an HBO project, wet behind the ears, with an awful showing against an Urango he should have totally dominated. You're comparing apples and oranges here. To quote the hated Larry Holmes (by me, anyway)... Berto isn't fit to carry Mosley's jock.
So Jake Lamotta, Henry Armstrong, Sandy Saddler were all masters of technique? Being an ATG doesn't make you tactician, and Mosley is a brawler, but he just happens to be in a very athletic body.

Berto is cut from the same mould, but with less durability. That being said Berto has a jab, he throws good combinations, he has the technique, but like Mosley he has the bad habit of winging shots, and both of them are way too easy to hit given their athletic gifts.

I'm not saying Berto is a better fighter than Mosley, but name the things that Mosley does technically well? I am not comparing Berto to younger Mosley who had great combinations, countered much better than he does now. Mosley now is just a guy with great athletic gifts and who loads up on hooks. He's probably the best athlete I've seen who isn't natural in the ring, and who doesn't have good timing.

As for Berto-Urango, he didn't look great, but he did dominate that fight, he won every round with relative ease.

With their two past opponents you can't really compare the two
Berto did better against David Estrada, and actually stopped him, but he way worse against Collazo, IMO COllazo was a different fighter both nights, one night he broke his hands(against Mosley) and he wasn't throwing anything with conviction which made it easy for Mosley to look good, Also that night Collazo was trying to be a pure boxer, whereas against Berto he was trying to throw a ton of punches. In the times Collazo fought like he did against MOsley(from the outside) Berto was beating him in a similar fashion, and we have no idea how Mosley would have done if Collazo had healthy hands and if Collazo would have thrown more punches, and would have worked on the inside.