Previously...on LOST!

**OumaFan** · 07-13-2009 04:38 PM

I'm on episode 9. So yeah I'm definitely on spoiler alert.

Isn't that how it worked with Farraday and Desmond though? He only remembered at a time in the present after they went back to the past.

And why didn't Russo remember Jin earlier in the series but Widmore remembered Locke? I guess Locke could have just made more of an impression but you would think Jin was a big enough deal for Russo to remember.

Not saying you're not right, I just think there are some questions about the whole thing. Of course it would be silly to think everything will be resolved in a neat fashion, I decided a long time ago that there would just be some inconsistencies that are never dealt with.

Another thing about the Lost boards is their hilarious. They get crazy heated, this one dude just lost it at someone else and was like "for god's sake that goes against EVERY rule of time travel"

**OumaFan** · 07-13-2009 04:54 PM

Maybe Jin taught Charlotte Korean when she was on the island as a kid? He kind of looked at her like he expected her to know which was odd I thought although I could be overdoing that.

**RP33** · 07-13-2009 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by OumaFan

I'm on episode 9. So yeah I'm definitely on spoiler alert.

Isn't that how it worked with Farraday and Desmond though? He only remembered at a time in the present after they went back to the past.

And why didn't Russo remember Jin earlier in the series but Widmore remembered Locke? I guess Locke could have just made more of an impression but you would think Jin was a big enough deal for Russo to remember.

Not saying you're not right, I just think there are some questions about the whole thing. Of course it would be silly to think everything will be resolved in a neat fashion, I decided a long time ago that there would just be some inconsistencies that are never dealt with.

Another thing about the Lost boards is their hilarious. They get crazy heated, this one dude just lost it at someone else and was like "for god's sake that goes against EVERY rule of time travel"

HAHAHAH, that is classic.

You will understand it better as you watch the rest of the season.. The whole desmond thing was a different type of "time travel" compared to what you see in season 5 i think..

i believe it was faraday who explains it as when you go back in time, you're not in the past.. you're in the present.. I don't remember exactly when certain things take place so i'm not going to get into detail but rest assured that it will make sense to at least around 90% hahah.

**OumaFan** · 07-13-2009 08:21 PM

Ok so I do remember that Farraday said something about Desmond being a special case so I'm probably wrong.

But still the Jin/Russo thing doesn't make sense in the context of the show. Assuming there's all one timeline (not that I really understand that, I just act like I do) and the Desmond thing was a one off Russo had to have remembered Jin. At first I entertained the possibility that she just forgot because it had been so long but that's totally un Lost like. Then I thought fuck that he dissappeared in front of her eyes. Haha, that's something you would remember. I can't remember people that I just fleetingly met twenty years ago, unless it was that guy who dissappeared in front of my eyes.

What probably happened is that although I've heard some quotes that the Lost people all along knew exactly what was going to happen throughout the show that they didn't really plan this and therefore didn't have Russo seem to in some way recognize Jin earlier and now she's dead. Its probably just an inconsistency.

**OumaFan** · 07-14-2009 12:47 AM

So I take it that thing Alpert did to Ben makes it so in the present/his present blah blah he actually doesn't remember what Sayid did to him.

I hate this show

**RP33** · 07-14-2009 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by OumaFan

So I take it that thing Alpert did to Ben makes it so in the present/his present blah blah he actually doesn't remember what Sayid did to him.

I hate this show

sorry, i haven't watched those episodes since it ended, so i don't know the details, but i don't remember being this confused lol.. you're thinking too much into it i think..

if i went back in time, to when you were 10, and said something to you, your present body, the one im talking to right now, would not know of this memory.. that's how i understand it.... there is a scene that you may not have seen involving alpert, and thats all i'll say cause it's a cool scene, where he's in the past, and gives something to someone for the future, because that someone already lived that scene out and knew what needed to happen.. but even though Alpert ALSO did, technically, because now he's in the past, he didn't know that he did this action in the future..

that was probably confusing, but it will make sense when you see it, if you haven't already..

**Spicoli** · 07-14-2009 01:12 AM

Don't know if you have gotten that far but the scene with Hurley and Niles talking over the time travel while sitting in the house sums it up.....Alot of wtf moments ....you feel like your playing catch up through the whole season

**OumaFan** · 07-14-2009 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Don't know if you have gotten that far but the scene with Hurley and Niles talking over the time travel while sitting in the house sums it up.....Alot of wtf moments ....you feel like your playing catch up through the whole season

Yeah and I basically knew that stuff before, that scene was like something out of a message board, actually kind of funny. The only thing that I was wondering about, if they've kind of gone off the timeline and their present is them sitting there and their past was actually 2004 or whatever then why does he say this conversation already happened but they didn't actually have it. Or something like that.

But yeah I think I get the basics of the Lost time travel theory, just still some questions about parts of it. But meh Lost has always had its slightly confusing moments.

One thing that I didn't get was Hurley and Miles talking about the wheel. Because on screen they've never seen it (only Locke, Ben and Christian have) and as far as I know on screen they've never had a conversation about it. I guess its written up to some off screen conversation. Because Ben certainly didn't tell them and neither did Locke.

**OumaFan** · 07-14-2009 01:16 AM

Its all remarkably silly. I mean I still like the show but I'm actually getting a little annoyed with it.

I get the basics, its the "Losties" present while their past is actually in the future and its Ben's, Horace's "past" and all of that.

"if i went back in time, to when you were 10, and said something to you, your present body, the one im talking to right now, would not know of this memory"

But Widmore clearly did. He remembered in his present Locke going back, walking into their camp and talking to Alpert.

What I'm saying with Alpert is Ben's present doesn't remember it because Alpert said that if he fixed him after he was shot by Sayid he would lose all memory of what happened related to that event.

I'm not totally sure of what you're talking about in the last half of that paragraph.

Its a little late.

I basically get it. I'm still a little iffy on some of the you can't change anything theory. I'm not sure their totally consistent about it. Not about life and death things but more subtle stuff.