Look von you can keep touting tyson if you want. I think the guy was just a good hw fighter and nothing more. Great power puncher but definatly with flaws. Alot of those flaws are of the emotional and mental type, but flaws none the less. The guy failed against every great HW he ever faced miserbaly. He has a win over a blown up LHW with bad knees in Spinks and a 38 yr old Holmes outside of those wins none of his wins are against anything other than average to decent fighters. Against a top lhw and hw MMA striker the guy would have a punchers chance but thats about it. I think you are doing Chuck a disservice by saying he isn't one of the best LHW's in the world. He has wins against Tito, Couture, Babalu, Horn etc. Would he be as dominant in Pride? Maybe maybe not. Rampage put a pretty good ass whipping on him, but that doesn't take away from the rest of the guys career. Obviously his style isn't an orthodox boxing style but I don't think you deny its effectiveness.