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    Default Re: Regarding weight loss, straight from the horses mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    OMG Bil come on... My logic needs to be consistant

    Im not contradicting myself Bil, i'm simply commenting on two opposites of the same problem

    Hopkins was making 160 EASILY. The fact he made 158 against Oscar supports this. Him moving up to 170 was done through bulking up. It was done carefully and professionally and it probably cost him a shit load of money. It was practically an investment!
    Do you then understand that for him to want to fight smaller guys while bulking up stinks of Bullshit?

    Now on the other hand, Manny Pacquiao fighting Oscar at 147 then stating that he will only fight Cotto at 143 (it was COTTO who wanted to fight at 145 Bil, you really need to get your facts together) again leaves a foul smell of bullshit in the air.

    Now hows that for inconsistent

    It's easy to point out how 'small' or 'big' a guy is for his weight but really your informed opinion has to be based on a bit more than just appearances.

    Cotto hasn't fought below 146 for about 3 years now and each pound makes all the difference in terms of dehydration IMO.

    And the end of the day Bil, if this fight were to happened it would of been signed by now but Cotto isn't silly, he obviously knows his own body. Mosley might be a bit desperate at this stage in his career but hopefully not.


    Oh and finally, sorry about thinking you were aiming your posts at me. I thought that because i'm definitely aiming mine at you. Your the main protagonist for Catchweight fights and your quite the influential poster here on Saddo Boxing. I would feel a burning injustice if i were to let your i'll informed comments appear to hold water so again i apologise, honestly it's nothing personal but you know, im just doing my job
    Look if you think Hopkins made 158 easily I just cannot debate with you. Hopkins was a massive middleweight and his 'bulking up' as you put it was because he jumped 15 lbs and two weight classes in one go.

    Hopkins is every bit as big as Tarver, Dawson, Jones Jr etc and always was he kept himself at 160 through fanatical dedication to the sport, the dude hasn't even eaten a chocolate bar in 20 years.

    Anyway I'm sure you'l have reasons to explain how Marquez dragging Mayweather who only two fights ago was a junior middleweight down to 143 lbs is more acceptable than Manny wanting a catchweight fight against Cotto.

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    Default Re: Regarding weight loss, straight from the horses mouth

    We'll the day i found out Mayweather was fighting Marquez i did say that this fight shouldn't be happening anywhere north of 140. But really this fight shouldn't be happening at all.

    I mean Marquez looked relatively soft at 135. I dread to think how he'll look at 147. No doubt he'll jump on the weights but i've been reading up on Shane Mosley's comments in the media lately and he's had some negative comments about his former conditioning coach. Claiming that all that work he was made to do on the weights only slowed him down.

    I'm kind of assuming a similar thing will be apparent in Marquez against Mayweather... Stiffer, Less Rhythmic, Dis-jointed etc.

    Mosley did comment that in Marquez he noticed some hidden power in his rise through the weights. He's been knocking guys out at 135. Guys who don't get knocked out. So im kinda hoping that Marquez' power will increase 3 fold against Mayweather

    I doubt it though. He only knocked them guys out because he absolutely had to (if you know what i mean.)
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