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    Default Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!

    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Chico Corrales
    Tommy Hearns
    Tito Trinidad
    Terry Norris
    why tito?
    Trinidad like Corrales was only really KO'd once, and that in Corrales case was against Castillo, the Mayweather TKO and Casamayor TKO especially were basically cause of damage done, he wasn't SERIOUSLY hurt against Floyd
    but Trinidad was dropped a hell of a lot of times

    Campas
    Carr
    Vargas
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Jones Jr

    all dropped him, and i know there are more, just can't think of em

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    Default Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Chico Corrales
    Tommy Hearns
    Tito Trinidad
    Terry Norris
    why tito?
    Trinidad like Corrales was only really KO'd once, and that in Corrales case was against Castillo, the Mayweather TKO and Casamayor TKO especially were basically cause of damage done, he wasn't SERIOUSLY hurt against Floyd
    but Trinidad was dropped a hell of a lot of times

    Campas
    Carr
    Vargas
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Jones Jr

    all dropped him, and i know there are more, just can't think of em
    Corrales got beaten from pillar to post in the Mayweather fight IMO. His corner did the right thing stopping it, the guy had an ATG heart, which is why he kept getting back up, but you've got to stop those guys for their own good sometimes. I don't think Trinidad's chin was that bad, although I think it was a tad on the weak side

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    Default Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post

    why tito?
    Trinidad like Corrales was only really KO'd once, and that in Corrales case was against Castillo, the Mayweather TKO and Casamayor TKO especially were basically cause of damage done, he wasn't SERIOUSLY hurt against Floyd
    but Trinidad was dropped a hell of a lot of times

    Campas
    Carr
    Vargas
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Jones Jr

    all dropped him, and i know there are more, just can't think of em
    Corrales got beaten from pillar to post in the Mayweather fight IMO. His corner did the right thing stopping it, the guy had an ATG heart, which is why he kept getting back up, but you've got to stop those guys for their own good sometimes. I don't think Trinidad's chin was that bad, although I think it was a tad on the weak side
    oh i agree that Mayweather put a beating on Corrales, but he was never really out of it if you get what i mean, he wasn't knocked silly, and his chin wasn't as bad as some think, the shots he took throughout the first Castillo fight are testament to this, especially considering that Castillo was a banger at 135, the kd's in the final round of the fight were hard shots, and then the way he came back is legend, his chin was a bit shakey but not complete garbage just like Trinidad's IMO

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    Default Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Chico Corrales
    Tommy Hearns
    Tito Trinidad
    Terry Norris
    why tito?
    Trinidad like Corrales was only really KO'd once, and that in Corrales case was against Castillo, the Mayweather TKO and Casamayor TKO especially were basically cause of damage done, he wasn't SERIOUSLY hurt against Floyd
    but Trinidad was dropped a hell of a lot of times

    Campas
    Carr
    Vargas
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Jones Jr

    all dropped him, and i know there are more, just can't think of em
    Well i don't count the Roy Jones Jr fight, i don't know why you would either to be honest bro. I've seen all of those fights you mentioned, and i think the Mayorga, Campas, knockdowns were flash knockdowns. The Carr, Vargas, knockdowns were more heavy knockdowns. And the Hopkins one was after he got beat up for 11 rounds,

    But i think out of all the ones there, only really one of those knockdowns affected him. And that was the Vargas knockdown, and obviously the Hopkins one. He was also knocked down by David Reid and a few other times early in his career. But again i don't feel he was hurt by any of them. I don't think Felix Trinidad's chin was that bad to be honest.

    I think that he was the kind of fighter, that took a few rounds to get going and warmed up. Which is why he was floored early and not late on, infact i think he was only floored three times after the 6th round, twice by Roy Jones, which i don't count. Because that was at Light Heavyweight, and Felix Trinidad was badly ring rusty. And the only other time was against Bernard Hopkins, after taking a sustained beating.
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    Default Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post

    why tito?
    Trinidad like Corrales was only really KO'd once, and that in Corrales case was against Castillo, the Mayweather TKO and Casamayor TKO especially were basically cause of damage done, he wasn't SERIOUSLY hurt against Floyd
    but Trinidad was dropped a hell of a lot of times

    Campas
    Carr
    Vargas
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Jones Jr

    all dropped him, and i know there are more, just can't think of em
    Well i don't count the Roy Jones Jr fight, i don't know why you would either to be honest bro. I've seen all of those fights you mentioned, and i think the Mayorga, Campas, knockdowns were flash knockdowns. The Carr, Vargas, knockdowns were more heavy knockdowns. And the Hopkins one was after he got beat up for 11 rounds,

    But i think out of all the ones there, only really one of those knockdowns affected him. And that was the Vargas knockdown, and obviously the Hopkins one. He was also knocked down by David Reid and a few other times early in his career. But again i don't feel he was hurt by any of them. I don't think Felix Trinidad's chin was that bad to be honest.

    I think that he was the kind of fighter, that took a few rounds to get going and warmed up. Which is why he was floored early and not late on, infact i think he was only floored three times after the 6th round, twice by Roy Jones, which i don't count. Because that was at Light Heavyweight, and Felix Trinidad was badly ring rusty. And the only other time was against Bernard Hopkins, after taking a sustained beating.
    Yeah... I would've answered the same as Ice. Tito's early knockdowns were pretty much flash knockdowns, probably more a problem with Tito's balance than anything else. He rarely looked really hurt or stunned by them. On the contrary, he usually got up and finished off the offender.

    Against Hopkins, Tito was beaten to the punch consistently throughout the whole fight. So when the TKO finally came, it was more an accumulation of Hopkins' punches, than anything having to do with a weak chin.

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    Default Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Chico Corrales
    Tommy Hearns
    Tito Trinidad
    Terry Norris
    why tito?
    Trinidad like Corrales was only really KO'd once, and that in Corrales case was against Castillo, the Mayweather TKO and Casamayor TKO especially were basically cause of damage done, he wasn't SERIOUSLY hurt against Floyd
    but Trinidad was dropped a hell of a lot of times

    Campas
    Carr
    Vargas
    Hopkins
    Mayorga
    Jones Jr

    all dropped him, and i know there are more, just can't think of em
    Throw in Anthony Stephens.Fed Young Tito alot of right hands early and had him the most hurt of anyone I believe.KD and out on his feet for a sec.

    Maybe a bit unfair but Humberto Gonzalez,Edwin Rosario.Underrated and misleading record holder Freddie Pendleton.......had a chin made of sugar glass

    Think Lewis gets a bum rap for his chin.Stood up against some capable punchers.Shite training and lax preparation sure,but think his beard was good.
    Last edited by Spicoli; 07-17-2009 at 10:18 PM.

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    Default Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!

    I may get some bad responses for this but Juan Manuel Marquez comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    I may get some bad responses for this but Juan Manuel Marquez comes to mind.
    Im a big JMM fan but i agree his chin isn't solid, but i think he does have excellent recovery powers, which makes up for it IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    I may get some bad responses for this but Juan Manuel Marquez comes to mind.
    Im a big JMM fan but i agree his chin isn't solid, but i think he does have excellent recovery powers, which makes up for it IMO.
    Do you think he was genuinely knocked down v Barrera ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    I may get some bad responses for this but Juan Manuel Marquez comes to mind.
    Im a big JMM fan but i agree his chin isn't solid, but i think he does have excellent recovery powers, which makes up for it IMO.
    Do you think he was genuinely knocked down v Barrera ?
    Yes i do but even if the knockdown was scored, i would of only had it 10-9 for MAB. Because he was dominated so much in the round, but two of my favorites were going at it was a hard fight to watch. But that was MAB's last really good performance IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    I may get some bad responses for this but Juan Manuel Marquez comes to mind.
    I don't think his chin is great, but he can definitely take a punch

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