Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 103

Thread: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

Share/Bookmark
  1. #46
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Shreveport, La.
    Posts
    190
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1015
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    On his day, Tommy Hearns had everything. When it wasn't he saw arena lights!

    My man Hagler looks perfect in the record book, as well as in some of his more famous fights.

    Shane Mosely is as close to perfect, on occasion, as I think I've seen recently.

    Roy in his prime was impressive.

    There is no perfect fighter, only great fighters who have perfect nights!

    BTW I am drunkly watching Mosely/Margarito for the umpteenth time! Can't get enough!
    Last edited by DAWGSWIN; 07-20-2009 at 04:00 AM.

  2. #47
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    10,364
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1397
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    I look at Style rather than substance... (lol)
    I know that sounds ridiculous to say but in boxing you really only need two things.

    1. The right game plan
    2. The right temperament to carry out that game plan.



    Hence for me... In the most un-text book of ways, a prime Bernard Hopkins was an ultimate fighting machine.

    For me, a man who can orchestrate himself in such a way were there's an answer for everything (And stylistically Nard had an answer for everything) is the perfect fighter.

    I never used to like Bernard but his older footage is just 100% Gold.
    Hidden Content
    Original & Best: The Sugar Man

  3. #48
    ICB Guest

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyBacon View Post
    motivated lennox lewis
    pernell whitaker
    Lennox couldnt really fight on the inside , and as great as sweatpea was he lacked power.
    Pernell Whitaker had more power than you think, the reason he didn't have a higher KO precentage. Is because he was mostly on the backfoot concentrating on defense, but when he needed to come forward and exchange he could.

    I mean he was able to stun JCC a few times, he also badly hurt Felix Trinidad. And he KO'ed Disobelys Hurtado in one of the most brutal KO's i've ever seen. Im not saying he was a puncher because he clearly wasn't, but i do think his power was underrated.

  4. #49
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,805
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1407
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    On his day, Tommy Hearns had everything. When it wasn't he saw arena lights!

    My man Hagler looks perfect in the record book, as well as in some of his more famous fights.

    Shane Mosely is as close to perfect, on occasion, as I think I've seen recently.

    Roy in his prime was impressive.

    There is no perfect fighter, only great fighters who have perfect nights!

    BTW I am drunkly watching Mosely/Margarito for the umpteenth time! Can't get enough!
    But Lopez, Sanchez and Jofre probably sustained "close to perfection" longer than most, don't you think?

    “If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton





  5. #50
    ICB Guest

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    On his day, Tommy Hearns had everything. When it wasn't he saw arena lights!

    My man Hagler looks perfect in the record book, as well as in some of his more famous fights.

    Shane Mosely is as close to perfect, on occasion, as I think I've seen recently.

    Roy in his prime was impressive.

    There is no perfect fighter, only great fighters who have perfect nights!

    BTW I am drunkly watching Mosely/Margarito for the umpteenth time! Can't get enough!
    But Lopez, Sanchez and Jofre probably sustained "close to perfection" longer than most, don't you think?
    As much as i love Salvador Sanchez, i don't think he sustained perfection. He had struggles against Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, and he was arguably losing to a novice Azumah Nelson, who fought a very good fight. But obviously wasn't in his peak, but neither was Salvador Sanchez IMO.

    Salvador Sanchez is great but he hadn't reached his peak yet, so he obviously was not the perfect fighter yet. Ricardo Lopez i agree on he had it all. Eder Jofre haven't seen alot of so i can't comment.

  6. #51
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,805
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1407
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    On his day, Tommy Hearns had everything. When it wasn't he saw arena lights!

    My man Hagler looks perfect in the record book, as well as in some of his more famous fights.

    Shane Mosely is as close to perfect, on occasion, as I think I've seen recently.

    Roy in his prime was impressive.

    There is no perfect fighter, only great fighters who have perfect nights!

    BTW I am drunkly watching Mosely/Margarito for the umpteenth time! Can't get enough!
    But Lopez, Sanchez and Jofre probably sustained "close to perfection" longer than most, don't you think?
    As much as i love Salvador Sanchez, i don't think he sustained perfection. He had struggles against Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, and he was arguably losing to a novice Azumah Nelson, who fought a very good fight. But obviously wasn't in his peak, but neither was Salvador Sanchez IMO.

    Salvador Sanchez is great but he hadn't reached his peak yet, so he obviously was not the perfect fighter yet. Ricardo Lopez i agree on he had it all. Eder Jofre haven't seen alot of so i can't comment.

    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.

    “If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton





  7. #52
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    66,308
    Mentioned
    1697 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    3106
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Roy Jones
    Pernell Whitaker
    Mike Tyson
    JCC
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

  8. #53
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,805
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1407
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    SANCHEZ HAD PULLED AHEAD OF NELSON PRIOR TO THE STOPPAGE. Tony Castellano 135-131 | judge: Al Reid 132-133 | judge: Artie Aidala 134-131

    “If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton





  9. #54
    El Kabong Guest

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    I look at Style rather than substance... (lol)
    I know that sounds ridiculous to say but in boxing you really only need two things.
    1. The right game plan
    2. The right temperament to carry out that game plan.

    Hence for me... In the most un-text book of ways, a prime Bernard Hopkins was an ultimate fighting machine.

    For me, a man who can orchestrate himself in such a way were there's an answer for everything (And stylistically Nard had an answer for everything) is the perfect fighter.

    I never used to like Bernard but his older footage is just 100% Gold.
    ....I think he gave away too many rounds, if you GIVE AWAY 2-3 rounds then you give your opponent too much of an opportunity to win and the judges too much of an opportunity to screw you which is why if Hopkins could either punch harder or had a motor like Marvin Hagler or had the hand speed of a Roy Jones Jr...all things that would keep him from giving rounds away, then he would be "perfect"

  10. #55
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    10,364
    Mentioned
    10 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1397
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    What round are you refering to? The 14 rounds he gave to Taylor or the 6 he gave to Calzaghe?
    Hidden Content
    Original & Best: The Sugar Man

  11. #56
    ICB Guest

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post

    But Lopez, Sanchez and Jofre probably sustained "close to perfection" longer than most, don't you think?
    As much as i love Salvador Sanchez, i don't think he sustained perfection. He had struggles against Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, and he was arguably losing to a novice Azumah Nelson, who fought a very good fight. But obviously wasn't in his peak, but neither was Salvador Sanchez IMO.

    Salvador Sanchez is great but he hadn't reached his peak yet, so he obviously was not the perfect fighter yet. Ricardo Lopez i agree on he had it all. Eder Jofre haven't seen alot of so i can't comment.

    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.
    A great amateur career doesn't prepare you, for a fighter like Salvador Sanchez. I love Salvador Sanchez but the fact is Azumah Nelson was still learning, plus he only had 2 weeks to prepare. A rematch would of been something else, because Salvador Sanchez would have improved by that time aswell.

  12. #57
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,805
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1407
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    As much as i love Salvador Sanchez, i don't think he sustained perfection. He had struggles against Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, and he was arguably losing to a novice Azumah Nelson, who fought a very good fight. But obviously wasn't in his peak, but neither was Salvador Sanchez IMO.

    Salvador Sanchez is great but he hadn't reached his peak yet, so he obviously was not the perfect fighter yet. Ricardo Lopez i agree on he had it all. Eder Jofre haven't seen alot of so i can't comment.

    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.
    A great amateur career doesn't prepare you, for a fighter like Salvador Sanchez. I love Salvador Sanchez but the fact is Azumah Nelson was still learning, plus he only had 2 weeks to prepare. A rematch would of been something else, because Salvador Sanchez would have improved by that time aswell.

    EEragh!!

    “If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton





  13. #58
    ICB Guest

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post


    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.
    A great amateur career doesn't prepare you, for a fighter like Salvador Sanchez. I love Salvador Sanchez but the fact is Azumah Nelson was still learning, plus he only had 2 weeks to prepare. A rematch would of been something else, because Salvador Sanchez would have improved by that time aswell.

    EEragh!!
    LOL relax old man i respect your opinion, and i love Salvador Sanchez. But i disagree with you slightly.

  14. #59
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,805
    Mentioned
    7 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1407
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"


    “If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton





  15. #60
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    On the levee
    Posts
    47,043
    Mentioned
    438 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    5122
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    I really dont think there is such a thing.Even the slightest uptight,burned out cynical boxing fan can find fault

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 19
    Last Post: 06-17-2009, 08:04 AM
  2. Replies: 65
    Last Post: 11-29-2008, 11:57 PM
  3. Replies: 75
    Last Post: 03-23-2008, 12:25 AM
  4. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-22-2007, 02:09 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing