Manny goes down in 8

[Kel]

I can only compare one other fighter to mayweather and thats sugar ray. The only diff i see with this sensetive situation (because others might view it different) is that sugar has blemishes on his record. And that is his legacy. Thats the tale of the tape for him. Now Mayweather on the other hand......... Think about it.

Nuff said.

Don't be so stupid.

[The GOAT]

I can only compare one other fighter to mayweather and thats sugar ray. The only diff i see with this sensetive situation (because others might view it different) is that sugar has blemishes on his record. And that is his legacy. Thats the tale of the tape for him. Now Mayweather on the other hand......... Think about it.

Nuff said.

Don't be so stupid.

Prove me wrong. SEE you cant because stats speak scrub. SO dont YOU be stupid and give credit when credit due

[Kel]

I can only compare one other fighter to mayweather and thats sugar ray. The only diff i see with this sensetive situation (because others might view it different) is that sugar has blemishes on his record. And that is his legacy. Thats the tale of the tape for him. Now Mayweather on the other hand......... Think about it.

Nuff said.

Don't be so stupid.

Prove me wrong. SEE you cant because stats speak scrub. SO dont YOU be stupid and give credit when credit due

Prove you wrong with what? He lost to Duran in his prime, his 2 other losses came about 10 and 20 years later. Maybe he could have retired undefeated if there were shot Gattis, Mitchells and Judahs hanging about or a shit Baldomir type held some title......but he fought all time greats instead.

Idiot

[The GOAT]

Don't be so stupid.

Prove me wrong. SEE you cant because stats speak scrub. SO dont YOU be stupid and give credit when credit due

Prove you wrong with what? He lost to Duran in his prime, his 2 other losses came about 20 years later. Maybe he could have retired undefeated if there were shot Gattis, Mitchells and Judahs hanging about or a shit Baldomir type held some title......but he fought all time greats instead.

Idiot

Thats where you are wrong BUDDY. You dont here jack sh1t about Duran. I'll give you tommy the hit man hearns, marvin hagler,and if you are a true boxing fan you should recall when sugar fought duran and fought him in the center of the ring with his own fighting style and beat him brutally. Then came back with the mandatory rematch and sugar danced all over him. Note im not saying sugar isnt great he is. But Pretty boy floyd is fast powerfull and a teacher of he game like the old greats before his time.

Now check out floyd resume and see who he fought. He fought all contenders or belt holders in every division he went to. never ran. The cottos and magarittos aint come on the scene until late. when pretty boy was on his way out the door 4 retirement. So try again my friend.

[Spicoli]

welcome to the forum.Someones been drinking the kool aid......

come in and start tossing insults like rice at a wedding....yeh, this will last.

[KananKrus]

Is this a thread about Miguel Cotto defeating Manny Pacquiao? Or it is something else, it's getting somewhat confusing....

[bcollins]

I see the short bus just pulled in.

[The GOAT]

Wow there are alot of PAC MAN fans. If you say anything wrong or they dont like you are going to be a troll. Hell i like PACMAN two. But im a student of the game and i call it like i see it. Because trust i ould love to see PACMAN and PBF get it on so all the critics can be silenced. But i just dont see him making it passed COTTO.

[JonnyFolds]

When you talk about Floyd on his "rightful thrown".. I assume you mean "thone", right?

Yeah and I thought you meant the real sugar, Ray Rob.

Duran unwound Leonard, I don't know how you have "leonard sitting in the middle of the ring beating him" in their first fight. Duran was bullying him all around the ring and landing at will. Props to Sugar for the rematch and win, but Duran quit, but he was not behind on the cards.

Mayweather is a paper champ if there ever was one. Cherry pickin B****. And I hope to God you are joking GOAT, b/c Kel and Spicolli bring up good points.

Nothing about an undefeated fighter makes him the best. NOTHING! Unless you are #1 P4P forever Sven Ottke!

And seriously.. talk about thread jacking your own post? Do you even have a topic or are you just completely lit http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...s/shocking.gif

[Kel]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

[ICB]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

I'd just like to say its a mystery to me, when people say Arturo Gatti was shot to pieces. Infact people were saying he never looked better, with his new and improved boxing skills. And he was coming off some very good wins against, Micky Ward 2x, Leonard Dorin, Jesse James Leija, Giancula Branco.

And i think its reaching to try and say Steve Forbes, gave ODLH a tougher fight. He won 3 rounds at max.

[The GOAT]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

I'd just like to say its a mystery to me, when people say Arturo Gatti was shot to pieces. Infact people were saying he never looked better, with his new and improved boxing skills. And he was coming off some very good wins against, Micky Ward 2x, Leonard Dorin, Jesse James Leija, Giancula Branco.

And i think its reaching to try and say Steve Forbes, gave ODLH a tougher fight. He won 3 rounds at max.

Thank you homie. I can see you are a student of the game also. You know your facts. I just gave up cuz i see heis strong on his opinons. But thats 100. You know your stats. 1 thing i will say Gatti did reform his style and skills and came through with a vengence in super welterweight. That was the best he ever looked. He did more boxing than brawling. I agree.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

I'd just like to say its a mystery to me, when people say Arturo Gatti was shot to pieces. Infact people were saying he never looked better, with his new and improved boxing skills. And he was coming off some very good wins against, Micky Ward 2x, Leonard Dorin, Jesse James Leija, Giancula Branco.

And i think its reaching to try and say Steve Forbes, gave ODLH a tougher fight. He won 3 rounds at max.

It was evident that he struggled badly to make 140 limit. During the Weigh in he looked like a Zombie. Cheek bones protruding like tumours.
He had blew up quite a bit from weight-in to fight night. Looked quite 'Watery'... Never a good sign.

Hence why he moved up in his next fight. (He was a WW a few years beofer but was clearly struggling with the power there)

Weird that. 140 to 147 seems to be the biggest p4p increase

But back to the point, in hindsight Leija was finished as was Dorin, Ward obviously felt he didn't have anything left to give so Gatti utilising boxing abilities against those goes isn't much.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

I'd just like to say its a mystery to me, when people say Arturo Gatti was shot to pieces. Infact people were saying he never looked better, with his new and improved boxing skills. And he was coming off some very good wins against, Micky Ward 2x, Leonard Dorin, Jesse James Leija, Giancula Branco.

And i think its reaching to try and say Steve Forbes, gave ODLH a tougher fight. He won 3 rounds at max.

Gatti did very well in the first round against mayweather until the stupid ref said something to distract gatti and floyd hit him with two cheap shots and knocked him down. Floyd was holding gatti's head down with his forearm, gatti was expecting the ref to break them up, the ref yells something unintelligible at the fighters, mayweathers takes his forearm off the back of gatti's kneck and lets him up, gatti looks at the ref to see what if he is going to break them up, floyd throws a couple cheap shots while gattti was looking at the ref to see what the hell the ref was going to do about the illegal tactics. Gatti was not the same for the rest of the fight and a stupid ref wrecked another potentially good fight. There was a major speed difference but gatti was doing very good defensively in the first round until the ref screwed things up.

[JonnyFolds]

Floyd Mayweather 140 and above.

Gatti - Shot after wars with Ward, a prime Oscar battered him anyway, everyone with a brain knew he would be outboxed.

Mitchell - Kostya battered him twice in and out of his prime, took Floyd twice as long to get an even older version out of there

Zab Judah - Put in his place by world class guys. Tszyu knocked him out in two rounds when in his absolute prime and Cotto took him to bits, he quit againsed Clottey. Even the late, great Baldomir managed to beat him, which is when Floyd decided to fight himTook Floyd the distance....

Baldomir - Should I fucking bother really?

Oscar - Past it and was losing as much as winning (ideal) Floyd hardly won in an impressive fashion either, Forbes gave him a harder fight for fucks sake.

Ricky Hatton - Never looked good at Welter and the Collazo took a lot out of him, the fight showed how beatable he was as many thought he lost the fight againsed Collazo. Floyd decides to fight him two fights later.



Now what? Tell me what is wrong with ANY of that.

I bet you say the media gave them all a chance (like they are supposed to do) or talk about betting odds or some crap. What else can you do or say? Can't wait to find out

Ha.. I had written something very, very similar then erased it. I was beginning to think that this guy was playing a joke on us.

Now I think he's actually serious... ridiculous.

Wait, when did Floyd beat up on Shane? I missed that one. Shane would whoop his butt!