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    Default Re: Dana White "Floyd Mayweather is not a superstar"

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    Sylvia is a joke yet he's a 2 time UFC heavyweight champion what does that say about MMA? my point is, MMA is pretty much overall a weak sport, anybody can beat anybody and there is no real DOMINANT fighter in the sport, aside from maybe Emilianenko (spelling?!?), you said "Tell me Floyd would stand a chance against a guy who outweighs him by almost 100 pounds like Dan Severn outweighed Joyce" so i ask you, name a fighter 50 yrs old who has little to no experience in boxing that can beat Mayweather, just the same way that Mercer KO'd Sylvia brutally, and to the other bolded part of your post, same way Severn and no other MMA fighter would last 12 rounds or even 10 rounds against a world class boxer, they only fight for 15 minutes on a non-title fight for godsake and 25 minutes in a championship fight, guess all that fondeling and dry humping on the floor really tires them out
    How has Mercer little to no experience in boxing he was a former heavyweight world champ?

    And if you mean as I think you mean that Mercer was entering into an MMA contest so you mean show you a 50 year MMA star with no experience in boxing that could beat Floyd in a boxing fight, then you need to know that the Silvia Mercer fight was not an MMA fight.

    It was sanctioned as a boxing fight until the authorities wouldn't allow that so it then became an MMA bout officialy but Slyvia pledged to keep it just to boxing, with only punches, so it was an almost 50 year old former world champ knocking out a 35ish year old with little to no boxing experience, basically the opposite point of what you are arguing.

    Also have you ever stopped to consider that the reason its harder to make the transition to world class in boxing is because in boxing every other form of combat is outlawed?

    If a world class boxer goes into MMA he is still allowed to box, but if a world class ju jitsu or greco roman wrestler enters boxing all of his skills are effectively outlawed so of course it would be harder.

    Brock Lesnar wouldn't make it to heavyweight champ in boxing because his core advantage in MMA, wrestling and that sheer overpowering physicality would be outlawed in boxing. He'd just have to stand up and punch and his lack of experience would see him getting owned.

    Put him in a ring with either Klitschko where its anything goes however and my money is on Brock coming out on top. They would have to land one on him quick before he got to them else they are being pounded and brutalised on the ground.

    Maybe they would do better than that I don't know, they are very big strong guys themselves after all, my point is though that its much easier to make the transition from boxing to MMA because you have already mastered one aspect of mixed martial arts, i.e use of the fists. For an MMA star however much of what they have learned is usueless to them in boxing because its not allowed.
    when people that have no previous experience in professional combat sports, Bob Sapp, Lesnar, Lashley, etc., go on to become "real threats" and have "lucrative" careers in the sport, well it doesn't say much good, and yea that's 1 former pro football/part time actor, and 2 former WWE wrestlers
    I don't even know who Lashley is so I'll ignore that but Lesnar seems to be the much more serious MMA guy compared to Sapp and saying he was a former WWE guy is ignoring the fact that he was an all american wrestler in college which is one of the base styles of MMA. Add in he's a phenomenal roided out athlete and huge for a MMA heavyweight so its no surprise why he's good at it.

    BTW I don't even think of myself as a MMA apologist, boxing is by far number one for me, UFC 100 bored the shit out of me.

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    Default Re: Dana White "Floyd Mayweather is not a superstar"

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
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    How has Mercer little to no experience in boxing he was a former heavyweight world champ?

    And if you mean as I think you mean that Mercer was entering into an MMA contest so you mean show you a 50 year MMA star with no experience in boxing that could beat Floyd in a boxing fight, then you need to know that the Silvia Mercer fight was not an MMA fight.

    It was sanctioned as a boxing fight until the authorities wouldn't allow that so it then became an MMA bout officialy but Slyvia pledged to keep it just to boxing, with only punches, so it was an almost 50 year old former world champ knocking out a 35ish year old with little to no boxing experience, basically the opposite point of what you are arguing.

    Also have you ever stopped to consider that the reason its harder to make the transition to world class in boxing is because in boxing every other form of combat is outlawed?

    If a world class boxer goes into MMA he is still allowed to box, but if a world class ju jitsu or greco roman wrestler enters boxing all of his skills are effectively outlawed so of course it would be harder.

    Brock Lesnar wouldn't make it to heavyweight champ in boxing because his core advantage in MMA, wrestling and that sheer overpowering physicality would be outlawed in boxing. He'd just have to stand up and punch and his lack of experience would see him getting owned.

    Put him in a ring with either Klitschko where its anything goes however and my money is on Brock coming out on top. They would have to land one on him quick before he got to them else they are being pounded and brutalised on the ground.

    Maybe they would do better than that I don't know, they are very big strong guys themselves after all, my point is though that its much easier to make the transition from boxing to MMA because you have already mastered one aspect of mixed martial arts, i.e use of the fists. For an MMA star however much of what they have learned is usueless to them in boxing because its not allowed.
    when people that have no previous experience in professional combat sports, Bob Sapp, Lesnar, Lashley, etc., go on to become "real threats" and have "lucrative" careers in the sport, well it doesn't say much good, and yea that's 1 former pro football/part time actor, and 2 former WWE wrestlers
    I don't even know who Lashley is so I'll ignore that but Lesnar seems to be the much more serious MMA guy compared to Sapp and saying he was a former WWE guy is ignoring the fact that he was an all american wrestler in college which is one of the base styles of MMA. Add in he's a phenomenal roided out athlete and huge for a MMA heavyweight so its no surprise why he's good at it.

    BTW I don't even think of myself as a MMA apologist, boxing is by far number one for me, UFC 100 bored the shit out of me.
    Lashley is just another former WWE wreslter who's trying to cash out on the MMA craze, wouldn't be shocked to see Olympic Gold Medalist, and former WWE wrestler Kurt Angle make the jump to MMA as well

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