Dana White "Floyd Mayweather is not a superstar"

[ElTerribleMorales]

How has Mercer little to no experience in boxing he was a former heavyweight world champ?

And if you mean as I think you mean that Mercer was entering into an MMA contest so you mean show you a 50 year MMA star with no experience in boxing that could beat Floyd in a boxing fight, then you need to know that the Silvia Mercer fight was not an MMA fight.

It was sanctioned as a boxing fight until the authorities wouldn't allow that so it then became an MMA bout officialy but Slyvia pledged to keep it just to boxing, with only punches, so it was an almost 50 year old former world champ knocking out a 35ish year old with little to no boxing experience, basically the opposite point of what you are arguing.

Also have you ever stopped to consider that the reason its harder to make the transition to world class in boxing is because in boxing every other form of combat is outlawed?

If a world class boxer goes into MMA he is still allowed to box, but if a world class ju jitsu or greco roman wrestler enters boxing all of his skills are effectively outlawed so of course it would be harder.

Brock Lesnar wouldn't make it to heavyweight champ in boxing because his core advantage in MMA, wrestling and that sheer overpowering physicality would be outlawed in boxing. He'd just have to stand up and punch and his lack of experience would see him getting owned.

Put him in a ring with either Klitschko where its anything goes however and my money is on Brock coming out on top. They would have to land one on him quick before he got to them else they are being pounded and brutalised on the ground.

Maybe they would do better than that I don't know, they are very big strong guys themselves after all, my point is though that its much easier to make the transition from boxing to MMA because you have already mastered one aspect of mixed martial arts, i.e use of the fists. For an MMA star however much of what they have learned is usueless to them in boxing because its not allowed.

when people that have no previous experience in professional combat sports, Bob Sapp, Lesnar, Lashley, etc., go on to become "real threats" and have "lucrative" careers in the sport, well it doesn't say much good, and yea that's 1 former pro football/part time actor, and 2 former WWE wrestlers

Wasn't Mickey Rourke undefeated as a pro boxer?

What about Matt Skelton a former K1 star who turned to profesional boxing aged 37 and went on to fight Ruslan Chagaev for a world title?

how many world title shots did Rourke get?

and you said it a former K1 kickBOXING star turned pro boxer, kickboxing is a combat sport, not some some road show with men in tights who claim to be in brutal matches, yet defend their titles weekly , Vitali Klitschko was a world champion in both boxing and kickboxing

[Kev]

when people that have no previous experience in professional combat sports, Bob Sapp, Lesnar, Lashley, etc., go on to become "real threats" and have "lucrative" careers in the sport, well it doesn't say much good, and yea that's 1 former pro football/part time actor, and 2 former WWE wrestlers

Wasn't Mickey Rourke undefeated as a pro boxer?

What about Matt Skelton a former K1 star who turned to profesional boxing aged 37 and went on to fight Ruslan Chagaev for a world title?

how many world title shots did Rourke get?

and you said it a former K1 kickBOXING star turned pro boxer, kickboxing is a combat sport, not some some road show with men in tights who claim to be in brutal matches, yet defend their titles weekly , Vitali Klitschko was a world champion in both boxing and kickboxing

But seriously how can you not see that somebody like Bob Sapp, who is a freaking man mountain wouldn't be quite succesful in a sport where anything goes?

His monstrous size wouldn't matter in boxing because he couldn't use it to his advantage but in MMA he can do what he wants with it.

The point you completely fail to understand is that not just MMA fighters would have trouble with Bob Sapp in an MMA fight but BOXERS would struggle with him in an MMA fight as well.

Boxing is a very very restricted combat sport. The reason it's harder to master boxing is that you have to be versed in those specifics, any other combat skills are irelevent.

To use an army analogy its like saying that an armoured jeep is better than a tank because it could thrash a tank in a road race and could beat it around some offroad terrain too.

Of course this would be missing the point that both an armoured jeep and tank are built for offroad conditions so of course the jeep could well offroad, but it ignores the fact that the tank has some pretty fucking kickass firepower that isn't being displayed in these tests.

Boxing is a part of MMA so a boxer can use his skills in MMA, whereas kicking, ju jitsu, wrestling etc are not part of boxing so an mixed martial artist cannot use his skills in a boxing ring.

It's so obvious to anyone with even two brain cells to rub together

[OumaFan]

And we can add ElTerrible to the list of people Bilbo's insulted lately

I've never noticed this before, a surly Bilbo.

[CFH]

And we can add ElTerrible to the list of people Bilbo's insulted lately

I've never noticed this before, a surly Bilbo.

I haven't noticed him insulting anyone else.

For the record, I happen to agree with everything Bilbo said regarding MMA vs. Boxing. I've said similar things in the past.

[OumaFan]

And we can add ElTerrible to the list of people Bilbo's insulted lately

I've never noticed this before, a surly Bilbo.

I haven't noticed him insulting anyone else.

For the record, I happen to agree with everything Bilbo said regarding MMA vs. Boxing. I've said similar things in the past.

Well he did call Ice an imbecile

There was somebody else a few days ago. I can't remember who. Or maybe I'm mixing things up.

[LEGION]

And we can add ElTerrible to the list of people Bilbo's insulted lately

I've never noticed this before, a surly Bilbo.

I haven't noticed him insulting anyone else.

For the record, I happen to agree with everything Bilbo said regarding MMA vs. Boxing. I've said similar things in the past.

Well he did call Ice an imbecile

There was somebody else a few days ago. I can't remember who. Or maybe I'm mixing things up.

Well he has been on a tear lately, and was trying to disembowel AdamGB about the catchweight thing.

[VictorCharlie]

During my time here on Saddos I've seen a lot of the boxing vs mma threads and I have to say this is the most civil and rationale discussion I have ever seen.

[Kev]

I haven't noticed him insulting anyone else.

For the record, I happen to agree with everything Bilbo said regarding MMA vs. Boxing. I've said similar things in the past.

Well he did call Ice an imbecile

There was somebody else a few days ago. I can't remember who. Or maybe I'm mixing things up.

Well he has been on a tear lately, and was trying to disembowel AdamGB about the catchweight thing.

Adam was asking for it. Seriously I was considering getting a longer cord for my life support system so I could step inside the ropes and give him what for.

[Mar]

I still don't get it.....floyd aint shit yet everyone is always talking about him. He's not a superstar...hillarious, if not yet then people that hate him are making him one. What's the name of that other boxer in the wwe and internet commercials I guess they figure go to a sport that isn't that popular and get the fighter who is least popular and we'll use him. The rest of the celebs they pay tons of money to and use strictly for thier name must not be shit either.....dana you moron he got your attention didn't he More pub and another dollor in the guy we "hate" (cough, cough) pockets. Amazing.