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Re: Dana White "Floyd Mayweather is not a superstar"
also back to what you said about Mercer, when the hell was Ray Mercer Heavyweight champ? he never won a world title, and as for Sapp giving anybody probs due to his size, ummm Sapp is like the MMA version of McCline, and well don't have to get too much into details thereOriginally Posted by Bilbo
But seriously how can you not see that somebody like Bob Sapp, who is a freaking man mountain wouldn't be quite succesful in a sport where anything goes?how many world title shots did Rourke get?
and you said it a former K1 kickBOXING star turned pro boxer, kickboxing is a combat sport, not some some road show with men in tights who claim to be in brutal matches, yet defend their titles weekly, Vitali Klitschko was a world champion in both boxing and kickboxing
His monstrous size wouldn't matter in boxing because he couldn't use it to his advantage but in MMA he can do what he wants with it.
The point you completely fail to understand is that not just MMA fighters would have trouble with Bob Sapp in an MMA fight but BOXERS would struggle with him in an MMA fight as well.
Boxing is a very very restricted combat sport. The reason it's harder to master boxing is that you have to be versed in those specifics, any other combat skills are irelevent.
To use an army analogy its like saying that an armoured jeep is better than a tank because it could thrash a tank in a road race and could beat it around some offroad terrain too.
Of course this would be missing the point that both an armoured jeep and tank are built for offroad conditions so of course the jeep could well offroad, but it ignores the fact that the tank has some pretty fucking kickass firepower that isn't being displayed in these tests.
Boxing is a part of MMA so a boxer can use his skills in MMA, whereas kicking, ju jitsu, wrestling etc are not part of boxing so an mixed martial artist cannot use his skills in a boxing ring.
It's so obvious to anyone with even two brain cells to rub together
same way you through in Skelton a former K1 fighter Cung Li should be thrown into that same category and yea he's the WEC middleweight champ after only like 3 pro MMA boutsWhat are you on about, who has become an undisputed mixed martial artist after 1 or 2 bouts, and don't use Brock Lesnar because he was a world class wrestlerAll the guys you mentioned have experience by gaining it, it doesn't matter if they started their boxing careers late, but they had to gain experience. Now name me 1 guy in boxing that virtually had no experience in it and became an undisputed world champion after 1 or 2 fights. You can't.
Seriously you are a bigger imbecile than ice
Let's suggest a few names. Erm Rocky Marciano! Started as an amatuer at age 23, turned pro at 25. Was undispute and one of the greatest of all time.
Jess Willard was a strong man and never put on gloves until he was 30 years old. He was good enough to knock out Jack Johnson.
If ypu want a more recent example then how about the Rock?
Hasim Raham never put on a pair of gloves until he was 20 years old, he was just a drug runner before that. He was became an undisputed champ.
Kermit Cintron was a wrestler until he was 19, had never boxed, has done pretty well.
Antony Mundine had 4 amatuer fights at 17 then took up a pro rugby career returning to boxing only at age 25.
All the guys I've mentioned so far have been or currently are world champs.
In the uk we have a 38 year old taxi driver called Marty Rogan who only started boxing in 2004, he became Commonwealth champ and knocked out Matt Skelton which Ruslan Chagaev couldn't do.
Are you starting to feel silly yet?
And if you're going to use Leon Spinks as an example, that guy had an standout amateur career and was an olympic gold medalist, so he was well schooled in boxing.
Now name me 1, just 1 boxer that doesn't have almost no experience either at the amatuer or pro level and then become undisputed champion after 1 or 2 fights.
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