Looks like Haye Vitali is off and its Haye v Valuev

[JazMerkin]

That's both Klitschkos who have now dodged Haye.

I'm a David Haye supporter, I from the same gym he did, but seriously...

Just because they create unfavourable terms, well, they're the guys at the top. They've earnt the right to do that

[Kirkland Laing]

That's both Klitschkos who have now dodged Haye.

I'm a David Haye supporter, I from the same gym he did, but seriously...

Just because they create unfavourable terms, well, they're the guys at the top. They've earnt the right to do that

They're both ducking him, it's obvious.

[ElTerribleMorales]

That's both Klitschkos who have now dodged Haye.

I'm a David Haye supporter, I from the same gym he did, but seriously...

Just because they create unfavourable terms, well, they're the guys at the top. They've earnt the right to do that

They're both ducking him, it's obvious.

yea cause David Haye would be the biggest, hardest hitting, most technically gifted fighter either one of them has ever faced...

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm a David Haye supporter, I from the same gym he did, but seriously...

Just because they create unfavourable terms, well, they're the guys at the top. They've earnt the right to do that

They're both ducking him, it's obvious.

yea cause David Haye would be the biggest, hardest hitting, most technically gifted fighter either one of them has ever faced...

I'd just like to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die. The fact that a chinny cruiser is the most exciting opponent for one of the two laboratory creations currently considered champions is a sad reflection on the state of the heavyweight division, isn't it?

[LEGION]

They're both ducking him, it's obvious.

yea cause David Haye would be the biggest, hardest hitting, most technically gifted fighter either one of them has ever faced...

I'd just like to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die. The fact that a chinny cruiser is the most exciting opponent for one of the two laboratory creations currently considered champions is a sad reflection on the state of the heavyweight division, isn't it?

Well here's to hoping you're in your teens

[Kirkland Laing]

You're not kidding.

[ElTerribleMorales]

You're not kidding.

well there's always Haye/Arreola

[El Kabong]

Well, well, well....I can't say I am surprised. Sure people will say the Klitschko's drove too hard of a bargin, but the ball was in their court and David was at their mercy, after all the talk and all the hype, David decided to take his ball and go home. It's now 8 months since David Haye's introduction to being a full time heavyweight and he has had only the fight vs Monte Barrett...Wladimir has fought twice and Vitali has fought once in the ring and once in court since November 2008...my point is even the CHAMPIONS of the division have been more active than David Haye at heavyweight, which shouldn't happen...hell even Nicolay Valuev has fought more recently than David Haye! That is just fucking sad.

The good news is we'll more than likely get to see Vitali-Cris Arreola which will be a good solid fight, one which the fans will want to see and one where both sides shouldn't have much to argue about at the negotiating table. Hell at this point, I would even leave the Oleg Maskaev option open at this point in time...might as well get some rounds in.

David Haye has gone out of his way to be a prick just to get a shot at one of the Klitschko's only to back out both times he's had the chance to fight them. Seems to me David Haye may want a belt, but he doesn't want to actually have to fight Wlad or Vitali to get one. While I think this Valuev fight is faaaaar better for his career, I think the way he has gone about his business is an absolute joke. I think perhaps at the last minute he was talked out of fighting Vitali by his management who knew like everyone else that he didn't stand a chance. Sure Valuev is big, but I have my doubts about his ability to take a shot and he damn sure can't punch, BUT I still think the big oaf should be the betting favorite as #1 He's hard to beat on the cards and #2 We don't know how David will react to getting hit or just the sheer size of Valuev, that may cause David problems.

I'd just like to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die. The fact that a chinny cruiser is the most exciting opponent for one of the two laboratory creations currently considered champions is a sad reflection on the state of the heavyweight division, isn't it?

And now you'll get your chance, a no talent 7 foot heavyweight vs a chinny loudmouthed cruiserweight....no, it's not Julius Long vs Enzo Maccarinelli, but you might think that if the names were left out of this.

A Bisping/Hatton type KO is too good for David Haye...that is what he has accomplished with all his talk and all his hype, he has made me want to see him litterally tortured in the ring! I want to see a Oleg Maskaev-Hasim Rahman I KO...I want Haye to get sparked, fall through the ropes, and right into Jim Lampley's lap and to be honest I don't give a shit who does it, I'd even be happy if John Ruiz did it....that is how much I hate David Haye, I abhor David Haye!

[leftylee]

Well, well, well....I can't say I am surprised. Sure people will say the Klitschko's drove too hard of a bargin, but the ball was in their court and David was at their mercy, after all the talk and all the hype, David decided to take his ball and go home. It's now 8 months since David Haye's introduction to being a full time heavyweight and he has had only the fight vs Monte Barrett...Wladimir has fought twice and Vitali has fought once in the ring and once in court since November 2008...my point is even the CHAMPIONS of the division have been more active than David Haye at heavyweight, which shouldn't happen...hell even Nicolay Valuev has fought more recently than David Haye! That is just fucking sad.

The good news is we'll more than likely get to see Vitali-Cris Arreola which will be a good solid fight, one which the fans will want to see and one where both sides shouldn't have much to argue about at the negotiating table. Hell at this point, I would even leave the Oleg Maskaev option open at this point in time...might as well get some rounds in.

David Haye has gone out of his way to be a prick just to get a shot at one of the Klitschko's only to back out both times he's had the chance to fight them. Seems to me David Haye may want a belt, but he doesn't want to actually have to fight Wlad or Vitali to get one. While I think this Valuev fight is faaaaar better for his career, I think the way he has gone about his business is an absolute joke. I think perhaps at the last minute he was talked out of fighting Vitali by his management who knew like everyone else that he didn't stand a chance. Sure Valuev is big, but I have my doubts about his ability to take a shot and he damn sure can't punch, BUT I still think the big oaf should be the betting favorite as #1 He's hard to beat on the cards and #2 We don't know how David will react to getting hit or just the sheer size of Valuev, that may cause David problems.

I'd just like to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die. The fact that a chinny cruiser is the most exciting opponent for one of the two laboratory creations currently considered champions is a sad reflection on the state of the heavyweight division, isn't it?

And now you'll get your chance, a no talent 7 foot heavyweight vs a chinny loudmouthed cruiserweight....no, it's not Julius Long vs Enzo Maccarinelli, but you might think that if the names were left out of this.

A Bisping/Hatton type KO is too good for David Haye...that is what he has accomplished with all his talk and all his hype, he has made me want to see him litterally tortured in the ring! I want to see a Oleg Maskaev-Hasim Rahman I KO...I want Haye to get sparked, fall through the ropes, and right into Jim Lampley's lap and to be honest I don't give a shit who does it, I'd even be happy if John Ruiz did it....that is how much I hate David Haye, I abhor David Haye!

Keep dreaming boy

[DaxxKahn]

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Keep dreaming boy [/quote]


Haye manages one way or another to avoid a Klitschko doesn't he?

He gets hurt, the contract isn't fair, Blah Blah Blah BNlah Blah Blah.....

If you ask me it all sounds like he got himself a slight case of the Bitchout's

[DaxxKahn]

Well, well, well....I can't say I am surprised. Sure people will say the Klitschko's drove too hard of a bargin, but the ball was in their court and David was at their mercy, after all the talk and all the hype, David decided to take his ball and go home. It's now 8 months since David Haye's introduction to being a full time heavyweight and he has had only the fight vs Monte Barrett...Wladimir has fought twice and Vitali has fought once in the ring and once in court since November 2008...my point is even the CHAMPIONS of the division have been more active than David Haye at heavyweight, which shouldn't happen...hell even Nicolay Valuev has fought more recently than David Haye! That is just fucking sad.

The good news is we'll more than likely get to see Vitali-Cris Arreola which will be a good solid fight, one which the fans will want to see and one where both sides shouldn't have much to argue about at the negotiating table. Hell at this point, I would even leave the Oleg Maskaev option open at this point in time...might as well get some rounds in.

David Haye has gone out of his way to be a prick just to get a shot at one of the Klitschko's only to back out both times he's had the chance to fight them. Seems to me David Haye may want a belt, but he doesn't want to actually have to fight Wlad or Vitali to get one. While I think this Valuev fight is faaaaar better for his career, I think the way he has gone about his business is an absolute joke. I think perhaps at the last minute he was talked out of fighting Vitali by his management who knew like everyone else that he didn't stand a chance. Sure Valuev is big, but I have my doubts about his ability to take a shot and he damn sure can't punch, BUT I still think the big oaf should be the betting favorite as #1 He's hard to beat on the cards and #2 We don't know how David will react to getting hit or just the sheer size of Valuev, that may cause David problems.

I'd just like to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die. The fact that a chinny cruiser is the most exciting opponent for one of the two laboratory creations currently considered champions is a sad reflection on the state of the heavyweight division, isn't it?

And now you'll get your chance, a no talent 7 foot heavyweight vs a chinny loudmouthed cruiserweight....no, it's not Julius Long vs Enzo Maccarinelli, but you might think that if the names were left out of this.

A Bisping/Hatton type KO is too good for David Haye...that is what he has accomplished with all his talk and all his hype, he has made me want to see him litterally tortured in the ring! I want to see a Oleg Maskaev-Hasim Rahman I KO...I want Haye to get sparked, fall through the ropes, and right into Jim Lampley's lap and to be honest I don't give a shit who does it, I'd even be happy if John Ruiz did it....that is how much I hate David Haye, I abhor David Haye!

My goodness man did Haye break into your car or something

[Kirkland Laing]

Well, well, well....I can't say I am surprised. Sure people will say the Klitschko's drove too hard of a bargin, but the ball was in their court and David was at their mercy, after all the talk and all the hype, David decided to take his ball and go home. It's now 8 months since David Haye's introduction to being a full time heavyweight and he has had only the fight vs Monte Barrett...Wladimir has fought twice and Vitali has fought once in the ring and once in court since November 2008...my point is even the CHAMPIONS of the division have been more active than David Haye at heavyweight, which shouldn't happen...hell even Nicolay Valuev has fought more recently than David Haye! That is just fucking sad.

The good news is we'll more than likely get to see Vitali-Cris Arreola which will be a good solid fight, one which the fans will want to see and one where both sides shouldn't have much to argue about at the negotiating table. Hell at this point, I would even leave the Oleg Maskaev option open at this point in time...might as well get some rounds in.

David Haye has gone out of his way to be a prick just to get a shot at one of the Klitschko's only to back out both times he's had the chance to fight them. Seems to me David Haye may want a belt, but he doesn't want to actually have to fight Wlad or Vitali to get one. While I think this Valuev fight is faaaaar better for his career, I think the way he has gone about his business is an absolute joke. I think perhaps at the last minute he was talked out of fighting Vitali by his management who knew like everyone else that he didn't stand a chance. Sure Valuev is big, but I have my doubts about his ability to take a shot and he damn sure can't punch, BUT I still think the big oaf should be the betting favorite as #1 He's hard to beat on the cards and #2 We don't know how David will react to getting hit or just the sheer size of Valuev, that may cause David problems.

I'd just like to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die. The fact that a chinny cruiser is the most exciting opponent for one of the two laboratory creations currently considered champions is a sad reflection on the state of the heavyweight division, isn't it?

And now you'll get your chance, a no talent 7 foot heavyweight vs a chinny loudmouthed cruiserweight....no, it's not Julius Long vs Enzo Maccarinelli, but you might think that if the names were left out of this.

A Bisping/Hatton type KO is too good for David Haye...that is what he has accomplished with all his talk and all his hype, he has made me want to see him litterally tortured in the ring! I want to see a Oleg Maskaev-Hasim Rahman I KO...I want Haye to get sparked, fall through the ropes, and right into Jim Lampley's lap and to be honest I don't give a shit who does it, I'd even be happy if John Ruiz did it....that is how much I hate David Haye, I abhor David Haye!

You just can't deal with the fact that both your boys bottled fighting Haye.

[killersheep]

Well, well, well....I can't say I am surprised. Sure people will say the Klitschko's drove too hard of a bargin, but the ball was in their court and David was at their mercy, after all the talk and all the hype, David decided to take his ball and go home. It's now 8 months since David Haye's introduction to being a full time heavyweight and he has had only the fight vs Monte Barrett...Wladimir has fought twice and Vitali has fought once in the ring and once in court since November 2008...my point is even the CHAMPIONS of the division have been more active than David Haye at heavyweight, which shouldn't happen...hell even Nicolay Valuev has fought more recently than David Haye! That is just fucking sad.

The good news is we'll more than likely get to see Vitali-Cris Arreola which will be a good solid fight, one which the fans will want to see and one where both sides shouldn't have much to argue about at the negotiating table. Hell at this point, I would even leave the Oleg Maskaev option open at this point in time...might as well get some rounds in.

David Haye has gone out of his way to be a prick just to get a shot at one of the Klitschko's only to back out both times he's had the chance to fight them. Seems to me David Haye may want a belt, but he doesn't want to actually have to fight Wlad or Vitali to get one. While I think this Valuev fight is faaaaar better for his career, I think the way he has gone about his business is an absolute joke. I think perhaps at the last minute he was talked out of fighting Vitali by his management who knew like everyone else that he didn't stand a chance. Sure Valuev is big, but I have my doubts about his ability to take a shot and he damn sure can't punch, BUT I still think the big oaf should be the betting favorite as #1 He's hard to beat on the cards and #2 We don't know how David will react to getting hit or just the sheer size of Valuev, that may cause David problems.

I'd just like to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die. The fact that a chinny cruiser is the most exciting opponent for one of the two laboratory creations currently considered champions is a sad reflection on the state of the heavyweight division, isn't it?

And now you'll get your chance, a no talent 7 foot heavyweight vs a chinny loudmouthed cruiserweight....no, it's not Julius Long vs Enzo Maccarinelli, but you might think that if the names were left out of this.

A Bisping/Hatton type KO is too good for David Haye...that is what he has accomplished with all his talk and all his hype, he has made me want to see him litterally tortured in the ring! I want to see a Oleg Maskaev-Hasim Rahman I KO...I want Haye to get sparked, fall through the ropes, and right into Jim Lampley's lap and to be honest I don't give a shit who does it, I'd even be happy if John Ruiz did it....that is how much I hate David Haye, I abhor David Haye!

You just can't deal with the fact that both your boys bottled fighting Haye.

Please do explain? Did Wlad fake a back injury?

[bzkfn]

I'm stunned so many people are giving Haye shit for this. This is the smart thing to do. If he wins this, he brings the belt to the negotiating table. I don't believe for a second he'll mention anybody but a Klitschko after this fight.

[ClubberLang]

I'm stunned so many people are giving Haye shit for this. This is the smart thing to do. If he wins this, he brings the belt to the negotiating table. I don't believe for a second he'll mention anybody but a Klitschko after this fight.

It's definitely the smart thing to do. He has a far better chance against Valuev than either brother. And by winning he'll have beaten a top 10 heavyweight and have one of the belts. That will give him more negiotating leverage with the brothers for a future fight.

I think the reason people are giving Haye shit is because he has been talking trash for months and then backs out of two fights when he had a deal on the table. His team also behaved like amateurs, not dealing in good faith. If he had just been up front and said, "I don't like the deal so I'm going with Valuev" it would have been more understandable.