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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Good so you agree that Cotto can come in at 147.
    You guys bitching and moaning about the weight and split can save it. No one forced Cotto to take the fight. He has a team of negotiators who settled on those terms with the Paquiao camp. If Cotto and his team are satisfied with the terms, then there's no reason anyone else should care. 145 is a welterweight fight by definition, period. It's perfectly legitimate for the belt to be at stake and Cotto doesn't have a problem with it.
    Hey Cotto and PAC can negotiate and fight at whatever weight they agree to that's fine, that's not the problem I have with this. MY problem is that this is for a title. It is not up to PAC and Cotto to determine what the welterweight limit is. If it's going to be for a welterweight title Cotto should be able to come in at the WW limit. Everything else the purse split, and all other negotiations, I could care less about. It should be a great fight and entertaining, but it shouldn't be a title fight. If PAC wins it's not like he's going to defend the title anyway.
    that's the main thing that pisses me off, if Manny actually wins the title what is gonna do? call for bullshit catchweights for every fucking title defense? he needs to man up and fight a full fledged welter who's able to make the limit especially when that full fledged welterweight is champion

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    You guys bitching and moaning about the weight and split can save it. No one forced Cotto to take the fight. He has a team of negotiators who settled on those terms with the Paquiao camp. If Cotto and his team are satisfied with the terms, then there's no reason anyone else should care. 145 is a welterweight fight by definition, period. It's perfectly legitimate for the belt to be at stake and Cotto doesn't have a problem with it.
    Hey Cotto and PAC can negotiate and fight at whatever weight they agree to that's fine, that's not the problem I have with this. MY problem is that this is for a title. It is not up to PAC and Cotto to determine what the welterweight limit is. If it's going to be for a welterweight title Cotto should be able to come in at the WW limit. Everything else the purse split, and all other negotiations, I could care less about. It should be a great fight and entertaining, but it shouldn't be a title fight. If PAC wins it's not like he's going to defend the title anyway.
    that's the main thing that pisses me off, if Manny actually wins the title what is gonna do? call for bullshit catchweights for every fucking title defense? he needs to man up and fight a full fledged welter who's able to make the limit especially when that full fledged welterweight is champion
    If future opponents agree to the catchweight then why the hell should anyone care? Nobody has to agree to that, it isn't like they have a gun to their head. It's not like he's Mayweather making small guys come up to him. Manny is still going up to the bigger guys even if it is a catchweight.

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    Hey Cotto and PAC can negotiate and fight at whatever weight they agree to that's fine, that's not the problem I have with this. MY problem is that this is for a title. It is not up to PAC and Cotto to determine what the welterweight limit is. If it's going to be for a welterweight title Cotto should be able to come in at the WW limit. Everything else the purse split, and all other negotiations, I could care less about. It should be a great fight and entertaining, but it shouldn't be a title fight. If PAC wins it's not like he's going to defend the title anyway.
    that's the main thing that pisses me off, if Manny actually wins the title what is gonna do? call for bullshit catchweights for every fucking title defense? he needs to man up and fight a full fledged welter who's able to make the limit especially when that full fledged welterweight is champion
    If future opponents agree to the catchweight then why the hell should anyone care? Nobody has to agree to that, it isn't like they have a gun to their head. It's not like he's Mayweather making small guys come up to him. Manny is still going up to the bigger guys even if it is a catchweight.
    Sorry, but name me when Mayweather did this. The only possible name you could throw up is Ricky Hatton who chased the fight. The same Ricky Hatton who was already a world champ at 147. You simply can't name another 'small guy' who he's made come up to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    that's the main thing that pisses me off, if Manny actually wins the title what is gonna do? call for bullshit catchweights for every fucking title defense? he needs to man up and fight a full fledged welter who's able to make the limit especially when that full fledged welterweight is champion
    If future opponents agree to the catchweight then why the hell should anyone care? Nobody has to agree to that, it isn't like they have a gun to their head. It's not like he's Mayweather making small guys come up to him. Manny is still going up to the bigger guys even if it is a catchweight.
    Sorry, but name me when Mayweather did this. The only possible name you could throw up is Ricky Hatton who chased the fight. The same Ricky Hatton who was already a world champ at 147. You simply can't name another 'small guy' who he's made come up to him.
    Last I checked Marquez fought last at 135 and is coming up to 144 for the fight. That's making a small guy come to you.

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post

    If future opponents agree to the catchweight then why the hell should anyone care? Nobody has to agree to that, it isn't like they have a gun to their head. It's not like he's Mayweather making small guys come up to him. Manny is still going up to the bigger guys even if it is a catchweight.
    Sorry, but name me when Mayweather did this. The only possible name you could throw up is Ricky Hatton who chased the fight. The same Ricky Hatton who was already a world champ at 147. You simply can't name another 'small guy' who he's made come up to him.
    Last I checked Marquez fought last at 135 and is coming up to 144 for the fight. That's making a small guy come to you.
    Marquez called out Mayweather and it's not for a title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post

    If future opponents agree to the catchweight then why the hell should anyone care? Nobody has to agree to that, it isn't like they have a gun to their head. It's not like he's Mayweather making small guys come up to him. Manny is still going up to the bigger guys even if it is a catchweight.
    Sorry, but name me when Mayweather did this. The only possible name you could throw up is Ricky Hatton who chased the fight. The same Ricky Hatton who was already a world champ at 147. You simply can't name another 'small guy' who he's made come up to him.
    Last I checked Marquez fought last at 135 and is coming up to 144 for the fight. That's making a small guy come to you.
    Right, the same Marquez who we all saw call for the fight & who went life & death with Pacquiao. At least Mayweather is fighting him a lb lower than Pacquiao fights Cotto in your eyes right? Marquez called him out so he has to be the one to make concessions, or does that only apply when it's Manny Pacquiao making the demands. They're apparently the same size, so what's the problem him fighting Mayweather at 144 but not Pac fighting Cotto at 145?

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post

    If future opponents agree to the catchweight then why the hell should anyone care? Nobody has to agree to that, it isn't like they have a gun to their head. It's not like he's Mayweather making small guys come up to him. Manny is still going up to the bigger guys even if it is a catchweight.
    Sorry, but name me when Mayweather did this. The only possible name you could throw up is Ricky Hatton who chased the fight. The same Ricky Hatton who was already a world champ at 147. You simply can't name another 'small guy' who he's made come up to him.
    Last I checked Marquez fought last at 135 and is coming up to 144 for the fight. That's making a small guy come to you.
    back to the fact that Pacquiao is no different, last time i checked Oscar Larios was no featherweight and had just gotten stopped by Vazquez at super bantam

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post
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    Sorry, but name me when Mayweather did this. The only possible name you could throw up is Ricky Hatton who chased the fight. The same Ricky Hatton who was already a world champ at 147. You simply can't name another 'small guy' who he's made come up to him.
    Last I checked Marquez fought last at 135 and is coming up to 144 for the fight. That's making a small guy come to you.
    back to the fact that Pacquiao is no different, last time i checked Oscar Larios was no featherweight and had just gotten stopped by Vazquez at super bantam
    larios was the only one who had balls to fight pac in manila. Pac didnt care who he was going to fight that night, Larios got the chance got beat up and got paid the most in his career. Jmm is not the only guy who would love to fight floyd, look at the welterweight roster everybody there would fight floyd but floyd would rather fight a lightweight who hasnt even fought at junior welterweight.

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ClubberLang View Post

    Last I checked Marquez fought last at 135 and is coming up to 144 for the fight. That's making a small guy come to you.
    back to the fact that Pacquiao is no different, last time i checked Oscar Larios was no featherweight and had just gotten stopped by Vazquez at super bantam
    larios was the only one who had balls to fight pac in manila. Pac didnt care who he was going to fight that night, Larios got the chance got beat up and got paid the most in his career. Jmm is not the only guy who would love to fight floyd, look at the welterweight roster everybody there would fight floyd but floyd would rather fight a lightweight who hasnt even fought at junior welterweight.
    what are you talkin about Casamayor, Soto, JMM, Guzman, etc all were calling Pacquiao out, and why the hell did it have to be in Manila? neither one of the two were American so a fight in any of the 50 states would of been in neutral grounds, Pacquiao has never been an avoided fighter, so don't try to play that card

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