Sakio Bika v. Allan Green on the PBF/Marquez undercard?

[CFH]

But Allan Green also has a suspect chin, and he hasn't beaten anyone worth mentioning. Atleast Sakio Bika has been in there with some of the top Super Middleweights, and i thought he was punching straighter against Peter Manfredo, until he went crazy on him at the end.

How is Green's chin suspect? Miranda was able to floor a legitimately ill and very weight drained Green, but he still couldn't stop him.

Bika is a huge underdog if this fight comes off.

Donny McCrary had him down and all over the place, and should of stopped him really. And lets keep in mind this is Donny McCrary. Who is decent at best and has only decent power at best.

I haven't seen that fight, but I've seen Green fight at least 5 or 6 times and he's never struck me as having a suspect chin. Any fighter can be hurt, but I don't think that necessarily means they have a suspect chin unless it happens with regularity.

[ICB]

How is Green's chin suspect? Miranda was able to floor a legitimately ill and very weight drained Green, but he still couldn't stop him.

Bika is a huge underdog if this fight comes off.

Donny McCrary had him down and all over the place, and should of stopped him really. And lets keep in mind this is Donny McCrary. Who is decent at best and has only decent power at best.

I haven't seen that fight, but I've seen Green fight at least 5 or 6 times and he's never struck me as having a suspect chin. Any fighter can be hurt, but I don't think that necessarily means they have a suspect chin unless it happens with regularity.

Trust me he had Allan Green all over the place, if i remember rightly he walked into a big hook and he froze up. Then Donny McCrary went on the attack, rocking his head back with a series of punches.

And Allan Green went down pretty hard and he was badly shaken, then amazingly Donny McCrary doesn't really follow up which was confusing to me. And really he should of finished him off there. But that is why i picked Edison Miranda over Allan Green if i remember rightly.

[TigerFan]

Should be a good fight. I'm rooting for Bika mainly because I can't stand Green. He talks too much for me...especially for a guy who hasn't even beat a top 10 guy. Green could very well win the fight and make it look easy but give me Bika.

His chin is a bit suspect. Curtis Stevens had him all over the place in the amateurs. The knockdown against Stevens is similar to the knockdown he suffered against McCrary...once he's hit he kinda freezes and get's hit with numerous shots. Fast forward to 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_Ox1GOACw

[LEGION]

Should be a good fight. I'm rooting for Bika mainly because I can't stand Green. He talks too much for me...especially for a guy who hasn't even beat a top 10 guy. Green could very well win the fight and make it look easy but give me Bika.

His chin is a bit suspect. Curtis Stevens had him all over the place in the amateurs. The knockdown against Stevens is similar to the knockdown he suffered against McCrary...once he's hit he kinda freezes and get's hit with numerous shots. Fast forward to 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_Ox1GOACw

Which is why I wouldn't count Bika out. I remember the McCrary knockdown;think alot of it had to do with Green being way too overconfident, though that doesn't really affect the chin. I could see Green getting laid out in the later rounds as Bika is tough and one of those looping punchs might land. Green looked good in his last fights and not staring at his feet; but like I said in my other post, I never count Bika out. In fact the longer it goes the more I give Bika a chance.

[HattonTheHammer]

underestimate bika at your peril

Sure the guy is limited on natural talent but he more than makes up for it with heart and determination.

If green has his head screwed on he should be able to take a good points win...he sure as hell aint stopping him though

[CFH]

underestimate bika at your peril

Sure the guy is limited on natural talent but he more than makes up for it with heart and determination.

If green has his head screwed on he should be able to take a good points win...he sure as hell aint stopping him though

Codrington almost stopped him. Green can (and will) stop him.

[CFH]

I would also like to add that I dispise Allan Green and would love to see Bika lay him out, I just don't see any way it happens.

[HattonTheHammer]

underestimate bika at your peril

Sure the guy is limited on natural talent but he more than makes up for it with heart and determination.

If green has his head screwed on he should be able to take a good points win...he sure as hell aint stopping him though

Codrington almost stopped him. Green can (and will) stop him.

bika is the middles answer to your carlos baldomirs or lovemore n`dou`s

sure he`ll mix it with the very best of them, but as long as your a half decent fighter you should at the very least be able to take it on points

Green will take a comfortable decision, if however he takes it via KO then he more than deserves another world title shot

[Majesty]

Should be a good fight. I'm rooting for Bika mainly because I can't stand Green. He talks too much for me...especially for a guy who hasn't even beat a top 10 guy. Green could very well win the fight and make it look easy but give me Bika.

His chin is a bit suspect. Curtis Stevens had him all over the place in the amateurs. The knockdown against Stevens is similar to the knockdown he suffered against McCrary...once he's hit he kinda freezes and get's hit with numerous shots. Fast forward to 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_Ox1GOACw

Yeah he got knocked down and rocked but then he got up and still won the fight. It doesn't matter if he goes down I think he's already shown on more then one occasion that even if he gets knocked down it doesn't cause him to give up and he gets up and wins.

[ICB]

Should be a good fight. I'm rooting for Bika mainly because I can't stand Green. He talks too much for me...especially for a guy who hasn't even beat a top 10 guy. Green could very well win the fight and make it look easy but give me Bika.

His chin is a bit suspect. Curtis Stevens had him all over the place in the amateurs. The knockdown against Stevens is similar to the knockdown he suffered against McCrary...once he's hit he kinda freezes and get's hit with numerous shots. Fast forward to 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_Ox1GOACw

Yeah he got knocked down and rocked but then he got up and still won the fight. It doesn't matter if he goes down I think he's already shown on more then one occasion that even if he gets knocked down it doesn't cause him to give up and he gets up and wins.

But he's been knocked down and hurt by fighters, like Donny McCrary. Now fighters of that level Allan Green can get up, survive and win against. But can he do it against a dangerous fighter like Sakio Bika ?

Im not sure about that Allan Green hasn't ever fought anyone, except for Edison Miranda who himself has been exposed as very overrated. And Allan Green got beat pretty bad in that fight, now i don't know all about the troubles Allan Green had, all i know is he got floored twice and was beaten handily on the scorecards. I just can't see Allan Green managing to stay away from Sakio Bika, for 10 or 12 rounds however long the fight is scheduled for.

And once he gets clocked its all over, because Sakio Bika has power and from what i've seen. He has good finishing instincts. And Allan Green has a suspect chin like i've said earlier in this thread, i've just never been sold on Allan Green. I've always thought he was overrated, Sakio Bika may not be an elite world class fighter. But he has attributes that will trouble Allan Green.

[Majesty]

Should be a good fight. I'm rooting for Bika mainly because I can't stand Green. He talks too much for me...especially for a guy who hasn't even beat a top 10 guy. Green could very well win the fight and make it look easy but give me Bika.

His chin is a bit suspect. Curtis Stevens had him all over the place in the amateurs. The knockdown against Stevens is similar to the knockdown he suffered against McCrary...once he's hit he kinda freezes and get's hit with numerous shots. Fast forward to 4:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_Ox1GOACw

Yeah he got knocked down and rocked but then he got up and still won the fight. It doesn't matter if he goes down I think he's already shown on more then one occasion that even if he gets knocked down it doesn't cause him to give up and he gets up and wins.

But he's been knocked down and hurt by fighters, like Donny McCrary. Now fighters of that level Allan Green can get up, survive and win against. But can he do it against a dangerous fighter like Sakio Bika ?

Im not sure about that Allan Green hasn't ever fought anyone, except for Edison Miranda who himself has been exposed as very overrated. And Allan Green got beat pretty bad in that fight, now i don't know all about the troubles Allan Green had, all i know is he got floored twice and was beaten handily on the scorecards. I just can't see Allan Green managing to stay away from Sakio Bika, for 10 or 12 rounds however long the fight is scheduled for.

And once he gets clocked its all over, because Sakio Bika has power and from what i've seen. He has good finishing instincts. And Allan Green has a suspect chin like i've said earlier in this thread, i've just never been sold on Allan Green. I've always thought he was overrated, Sakio Bika may not be an elite world class fighter. But he has attributes that will trouble Allan Green.

CFH said apparently that

"in addition to being weight-drained, he has a completely legitimate excuse regarding that fight in that they removed something like 85% of his colon following the match because of an existing medical condition."


So if this is the case I wouldn't hold the Miranda loss against him at all nor would I use it to judge him on it at all