My Random Cotto vs Pacquiao ranting

[Rican]

i only see really two excuses that could surface..

1.) if for some reason pac ran the whole fight (being the faster guy) and pot shotted to a points decision without doing much damage to cotto..

this obviously won't happen.

2.) if pac completely destroys cotto within 3 - 6 rounds, people will say cotto was damaged goods after the margarito loss and close clottey decision.



besides those i don't see how this fight will not be entertaining and therefore a hell of a fight..

i will say this though, it took margarito (with loaded gloves) 10 or so rounds to knock cotto out.. if pac does it in less it will be impressive.

Manny potshotted and ran from OScar, and he was still very effective offensively, I don't think Manny going backwards is necessarily a good thing for Cotto because Manny would be a lot better off staying out of Cotto's range than he would be trying to match Cotto on the inside, if he stays away Cotto won't land much, but if he tries to fight Cotto at range, an accurate guy with fast hands like Cotto will hit him at will. Miguel has pin point accuracy, and more than enough power to stop Manny if Manny fights the wrong fight, but PAcquiao hasn't been doign that lately, if Manny fights like he did against Hatton and Oscar, I just can't see Cotto catching him.

First off, C-Lo's rant was a very detailed analysis instead of a rant. A job well done. From what I've seen, Cotto is at his best when he is the bigger man and when he is coming forward. He knows how to cut off the ring, has the great jab to neutralize Manny's offense, and he does his best body work when he fights in this manner. Cotto's seek and destroy is deadly, especially when he takes his time and plots his way in. Cotto has trouble when the opponent is a bit bigger, as strong, and can take a punch. Cotto is not as effective going backward, but still pretty good (against Mosley in the last four rounds, he stayed out of trouble and counter-punched beautifully. Same against Clottey and with one eye. Against Margarito, well, we know what happened or maybe happened there). I give credit to Manny who does a good job staying off the ropes and punching from crazy angles and moving after throwing punches. But I think Cotto can definitely catch Manny. I have no doubt he can wear Manny down.

[vilongo]

I really don't understand why people who wish to be considered serious 'boxing analyst" would permit their cultural, national, or ethno prejudices influence the logical way of perceiving the obvious. I hear so many people whine about how, "oh, this boxer ran so damn much;" "oh,that boxer sucks now because he didn't throw as many combinations as he did last time;" or "oh, this boxer doesn't want to get inside because he knows he might get killed;" or "oh, that boxers thinks he the shit, therefore, I'm going for the other guy;" or "ah, that boxer isn't like Mike Tyson." Look, if you want to see amateur 'boxers' fight then I suggest you head to youtube and search for 'kimbo slice' or 'UFC', or keep ESPN classics on favorites (boxing), they have plenty. When you turn on the T.V and switch to 'ppv big fights', or 'hbo fights', you're going to see 'Professional' boxers at work, and the makeup of a professional boxer is to use his/her 'head' in order to win a fight. That doesn't mean they 'suck', on the contrary, it means they're smart, good, and it's one of the main reasons why they've made it where they're at today. It's called being 'technical', if you'd like to use 4-5 letter word semantics to influences others to seeing your way, then by all means do, but whatever you do, never make a bet or think you'll be correct when trying to predict any fight, or even think others will take you serious.

Pacman is a right handed southpaw with a serious left; his speed is up with floyds, his power is irrefutable, and his aggression is unmatched in his weight division. I don't see who'd argue with that, much less prove it to be wrong; someone like an Erik morales, to me, is the boxer for manny at this point. Cotto, lets face it, is to me not going to last very long. Cotto has major aggression, yes, he does have speed, but he lack defense technique and I think you'll have to see it in every bout he's had. Cotto, I'd argue, would be a decent contender to manny, but not an equivalent. A Timothy Bradley would be a considerable opponent for pacman I think, Timothy has it all, plus a flawless record--not that that means much-- to which pacman can get a bit jealous of.

[Taeth]

i only see really two excuses that could surface..

1.) if for some reason pac ran the whole fight (being the faster guy) and pot shotted to a points decision without doing much damage to cotto..

this obviously won't happen.

2.) if pac completely destroys cotto within 3 - 6 rounds, people will say cotto was damaged goods after the margarito loss and close clottey decision.



besides those i don't see how this fight will not be entertaining and therefore a hell of a fight..

i will say this though, it took margarito (with loaded gloves) 10 or so rounds to knock cotto out.. if pac does it in less it will be impressive.

Manny potshotted and ran from OScar, and he was still very effective offensively, I don't think Manny going backwards is necessarily a good thing for Cotto because Manny would be a lot better off staying out of Cotto's range than he would be trying to match Cotto on the inside, if he stays away Cotto won't land much, but if he tries to fight Cotto at range, an accurate guy with fast hands like Cotto will hit him at will. Miguel has pin point accuracy, and more than enough power to stop Manny if Manny fights the wrong fight, but PAcquiao hasn't been doign that lately, if Manny fights like he did against Hatton and Oscar, I just can't see Cotto catching him.

First off, C-Lo's rant was a very detailed analysis instead of a rant. A job well done. From what I've seen, Cotto is at his best when he is the bigger man and when he is coming forward. He knows how to cut off the ring, has the great jab to neutralize Manny's offense, and he does his best body work when he fights in this manner. Cotto's seek and destroy is deadly, especially when he takes his time and plots his way in. Cotto has trouble when the opponent is a bit bigger, as strong, and can take a punch. Cotto is not as effective going backward, but still pretty good (against Mosley in the last four rounds, he stayed out of trouble and counter-punched beautifully. Same against Clottey and with one eye. Against Margarito, well, we know what happened or maybe happened there). I give credit to Manny who does a good job staying off the ropes and punching from crazy angles and moving after throwing punches. But I think Cotto can definitely catch Manny. I have no doubt he can wear Manny down.

I think Cotto would do best by keeping Pacquiao feet planted, keep him in the middle of the ring and try to fight wiht as little movement as possible. Miguel does cut off the ring, but so does Hatton, and Hatton has quicker feet. Also a jab is very hard to work effectively against a southpaw, sure it worked against Judah, but Judah keeps his right hand down and he doesn't move either his feet or his upper body consistently. There is a difference between maintaining a large range, and being a good defensive fighter, but in this case maintaining that range will make it impossible for Cotto to be effective.

[C-Lo]

Manny potshotted and ran from OScar, and he was still very effective offensively, I don't think Manny going backwards is necessarily a good thing for Cotto because Manny would be a lot better off staying out of Cotto's range than he would be trying to match Cotto on the inside, if he stays away Cotto won't land much, but if he tries to fight Cotto at range, an accurate guy with fast hands like Cotto will hit him at will. Miguel has pin point accuracy, and more than enough power to stop Manny if Manny fights the wrong fight, but PAcquiao hasn't been doign that lately, if Manny fights like he did against Hatton and Oscar, I just can't see Cotto catching him.

First off, C-Lo's rant was a very detailed analysis instead of a rant. A job well done. From what I've seen, Cotto is at his best when he is the bigger man and when he is coming forward. He knows how to cut off the ring, has the great jab to neutralize Manny's offense, and he does his best body work when he fights in this manner. Cotto's seek and destroy is deadly, especially when he takes his time and plots his way in. Cotto has trouble when the opponent is a bit bigger, as strong, and can take a punch. Cotto is not as effective going backward, but still pretty good (against Mosley in the last four rounds, he stayed out of trouble and counter-punched beautifully. Same against Clottey and with one eye. Against Margarito, well, we know what happened or maybe happened there). I give credit to Manny who does a good job staying off the ropes and punching from crazy angles and moving after throwing punches. But I think Cotto can definitely catch Manny. I have no doubt he can wear Manny down.

I think Cotto would do best by keeping Pacquiao feet planted, keep him in the middle of the ring and try to fight wiht as little movement as possible. Miguel does cut off the ring, but so does Hatton, and Hatton has quicker feet. Also a jab is very hard to work effectively against a southpaw, sure it worked against Judah, but Judah keeps his right hand down and he doesn't move either his feet or his upper body consistently. There is a difference between maintaining a large range, and being a good defensive fighter, but in this case maintaining that range will make it impossible for Cotto to be effective.

Hatton does have quicker feet than Cotto but when Cotto gets you on the ropes/corner, he keeps you there.

[killersheep]

First off, C-Lo's rant was a very detailed analysis instead of a rant. A job well done. From what I've seen, Cotto is at his best when he is the bigger man and when he is coming forward. He knows how to cut off the ring, has the great jab to neutralize Manny's offense, and he does his best body work when he fights in this manner. Cotto's seek and destroy is deadly, especially when he takes his time and plots his way in. Cotto has trouble when the opponent is a bit bigger, as strong, and can take a punch. Cotto is not as effective going backward, but still pretty good (against Mosley in the last four rounds, he stayed out of trouble and counter-punched beautifully. Same against Clottey and with one eye. Against Margarito, well, we know what happened or maybe happened there). I give credit to Manny who does a good job staying off the ropes and punching from crazy angles and moving after throwing punches. But I think Cotto can definitely catch Manny. I have no doubt he can wear Manny down.

I think Cotto would do best by keeping Pacquiao feet planted, keep him in the middle of the ring and try to fight wiht as little movement as possible. Miguel does cut off the ring, but so does Hatton, and Hatton has quicker feet. Also a jab is very hard to work effectively against a southpaw, sure it worked against Judah, but Judah keeps his right hand down and he doesn't move either his feet or his upper body consistently. There is a difference between maintaining a large range, and being a good defensive fighter, but in this case maintaining that range will make it impossible for Cotto to be effective.

Hatton does have quicker feet than Cotto but when Cotto gets you on the ropes/corner, he keeps you there.

My response to how I feel about PAC's fights and then I'm going to try to not post anymore until something new comes up.

Barrera I - he beat Barrera fair and square it was a very good win

Barrera II - Barrera fought more timidly than I've ever seen him fight before, he just wanted to go the distance I think. I've never seen Barrera respect another persons power like that. Another good win for PAC

Diaz - Pac got his win in another division and did what he was supposed to do, but in the future with all the talent at lightweight people will definately consider this a cherry picking moment.

ODLH - Oscar was drained, but already weighing at 147 a week before the fight. Oscar was a corpse in the ring, but that was his own fault, he's the one that chose an experimental crash diet before the fight. PAC pushed Oscar into retirement, the weight drained thing is legit, although PAC would have won anyway.

Hatton - Awesome win over the best man in the division, absolutey dominant with a killer KO

So I am mixed about his wins, all of his wins are good. Both of his Marquez fights could have gone either way, although I had scored both for Marquez there were plenty enough swing rounds in both fights.

As far as legacy goes, picking the weakest title holder at Lightweight and draining ODLH are really the only things worth griping about. He has had a brilliant career and the fact that there is so little to complain about really says something. He is never in a dull fight and is a perfect gentleman with a badass moustache. That covers the past pretty much.

As for Cotto, I disagree with wanting to let Pac plant his feet that would be a bad idea for someone that already has a significant hand speed advantage. Cotto needs to be the boxer and fight backing up (which he does very well). If Cotto tries to trade, PAC will slip out to the sides and light him up all night. For me, I want to see the same gameplan Cotto used against Margarito. For PAC I want to see him trying to spin out Cotto using that great lateral movement he has. I'm sure most of you will disagree with me, but that's my whole opinion on this and I'm sticking to it.

PAC 10th round TKO

Have fun at the fight C-Lo, wear a Saddoboxing t-shirt!!