Fedor is not fighting for his legacy, best believe that

[VictorCharlie]

I don't think anyone is really saying that Dana Whites "persona" is desirable and as a MMA fan I really wish the guy would take a more off center stage role. Guys is an asshole but I really don't think that had anything to do with Fedor's decision

[CGM]

I don't think anyone is really saying that Dana Whites "persona" is desirable and as a MMA fan I really wish the guy would take a more off center stage role. Guys is an asshole but I really don't think that had anything to do with Fedor's decision

No? Perhaps like Klitchkos refusing to fight for Don King cause King is an asshole.

[VictorCharlie]

well they are obviously the exact same thing now aren't they

[CGM]

well they are obviously the exact same thing now aren't they

I follow you about as well as you follow me. My impression, perhaps incorrect, is that you were implying that Fedor is just motivated by cash, and not by a dislike for White. If that is what you think, then I am saying that maybe it ain't so, as I think Klitchkos are motivated by a dislike for King, and if that is true for them, then maybe it is true for Fedor.

regards.

[VictorCharlie]

Well if you believe Fedor he has been quoted that White's comments had nothing to do with signing/not signing. The UFC met every contract demand Fedor's management put forth except co-promotion. It may very well be more than just money but IMHO I don't think White being a media whore and asshole played a part. I doubt Fedor personally has had much if any one on one time with White.

[CGM]

Well if you believe Fedor he has been quoted that White's comments had nothing to do with signing/not signing. The UFC met every contract demand Fedor's management put forth except co-promotion. It may very well be more than just money but IMHO I don't think White being a media whore and asshole played a part. I doubt Fedor personally has had much if any one on one time with White.

And I doubt Klitchko has had much one one one time with King, but that didn't stop them from forming an opinion of the guy, and I wouldn't simply chalk that opinion up to the way the media portrayed him. One on one is not exactly the only, or even the best, way to form an opinion on someone

Anyways, I see your point. Fedor through his management rejected White's conditions. Or White rejected Fedor's, which is just the flip side of the same coin. That's the only thing we really have to go on. Whatever role Fedor's like or dislike of White plays is really just speculation on my part.

[amat]

Yeah I'd think that when you are looking at millions some douchebag says but I can't find myself to get all worked up about it and for me White is an easy scapegoat.

[shafty85]

While I agree with many of you, that many of White's comments regarding Fedor are simply to pull the wool over some people's eyes, I do believe he is correct in stating that the best fighters are in the UFC. While lately I believe the UFC is becoming watered down (should fighters really be signed because they are entertaining over efficient? IMO this just opens the sport to brawlers who are tough, and discourages a lot of talent) I believe the top fighters are still in the UFC. Proof of this is the difficulty that fighters who come from other associations are having. At UFC 101, I believe it was, the Japanese K1 fighter who won a shocking split decision (or was it unanimous) said before hand that the fighters were much bigger in their division due to weight cuts, and he wasn't sure how well he would do, even though he had dominated in K1.

Anyway, too bad Fedor didn't get to come to the UFC, and shame on him and Dana for not being able to come to SOME kind of agreement so that fight fans could see some potentially great bouts.

[amat]

1.85 total payroll for UFC 100, the biggest event of the UFC year, and you somehow think that's at all right? Could you imagine if 2 boxers fought and got over a million PPV buys, and they split a 1.85 million dollar pot with 8 other fighters on the card. No way it's not fair where are those millions and millions of dollars that's not going to the fighters going? Really now, any fight fan should be wanting more money for the fighters and really, for how much hype that fight got, 400 thousand for Lesnar and 45K for Mir? Seriously, 45 thousand? I don't care how much sponsors give him he should get a waaaaay better payout then that.

400K is like what Berto got for fighting Collazo maybe even less.

[JT Rock]

1.85 total payroll for UFC 100, the biggest event of the UFC year, and you somehow think that's at all right? Could you imagine if 2 boxers fought and got over a million PPV buys, and they split a 1.85 million dollar pot with 8 other fighters on the card. No way it's not fair where are those millions and millions of dollars that's not going to the fighters going? Really now, any fight fan should be wanting more money for the fighters and really, for how much hype that fight got, 400 thousand for Lesnar and 45K for Mir? Seriously, 45 thousand? I don't care how much sponsors give him he should get a waaaaay better payout then that.

400K is like what Berto got for fighting Collazo maybe even less.

It is what it is dude, whether you like it or not... I dont hear those guys crying poverty one bit. What I do see is a company that has managed to dominate the promotion of a sport to the point that no one else can even sniff the success they enjoy.