Statement from Nate Campbell

[holmcall]

I think Nate is right that it should be a NC. The severity of the cut really doesnt matter. It put him at a disadvantage. Like ive said before though, Nate is like a good politician. He says the right things and explains things well. I do see him more and more as a self important person than an everyday guy which is why I originally liked him. I dont think there is another fighter on Nates level that puts out as many statements and gets as much airtime. I dont know, I still like him but hes starting to wear on me I guess.

He is becoming a just another head case/drama king. The whole world is against poor Nate. I'm sick of his rap because it diminsihes Bradley's fine performance. Sure, it should be a NC, but Nate would still lose in a rematch.

[boozeboxer]

I think Nate is right that it should be a NC. The severity of the cut really doesnt matter. It put him at a disadvantage. Like ive said before though, Nate is like a good politician. He says the right things and explains things well. I do see him more and more as a self important person than an everyday guy which is why I originally liked him. I dont think there is another fighter on Nates level that puts out as many statements and gets as much airtime. I dont know, I still like him but hes starting to wear on me I guess.

He is becoming a just another head case/drama king. The whole world is against poor Nate. I'm sick of his rap because it diminsihes Bradley's fine performance. Sure, it should be a NC, but Nate would still lose in a rematch.

you should write for yahoo sports.

[rocky55]

people who called campbell a liar and a quitter should be ashamed of themselves.

weeks ago nate ran after a crook who robbed a helpless old lady in a mall parking lot. tim bradley asked nate what if that robber has a gun and nate just said he has a gun too.

at least look at nate campbell as a whole person. look at what vernon forrest (rip) did too.

[holmcall]

I think Nate is right that it should be a NC. The severity of the cut really doesnt matter. It put him at a disadvantage. Like ive said before though, Nate is like a good politician. He says the right things and explains things well. I do see him more and more as a self important person than an everyday guy which is why I originally liked him. I dont think there is another fighter on Nates level that puts out as many statements and gets as much airtime. I dont know, I still like him but hes starting to wear on me I guess.

He is becoming a just another head case/drama king. The whole world is against poor Nate. I'm sick of his rap because it diminsihes Bradley's fine performance. Sure, it should be a NC, but Nate would still lose in a rematch.

you should write for yahoo sports.

It's not about ME, pal; it's about Nate. Save your insults for someone who gives a shite. Witter gets ripped as a quitter, but when Nate quits, it's ok.

[Majesty]

He is becoming a just another head case/drama king. The whole world is against poor Nate. I'm sick of his rap because it diminsihes Bradley's fine performance. Sure, it should be a NC, but Nate would still lose in a rematch.

you should write for yahoo sports.

It's not about ME, pal; it's about Nate. Save your insults for someone who gives a shite. Witter gets ripped as a quitter, but when Nate quits, it's ok.

So it's a black thing?

[holmcall]

[holmcall]

Rodriguez-Collins: Another argument for instant replay

On August 27, 2007 on ESPN, all action fighter Delvin Rodriguez, a native of the Dominican Repu , met talented Keenan Collins (12-2-1 with 8 Kos) of Reading, Pa., who was coming off a split decision loss. D-Rod entered the bout with a 20-2-1 record with 12 knockouts, and was coming off a KO loss to Jesse Feliciano for the USBA welterweight title. In that televised thriller, Rodriguez, dominated the early rounds, but was eventually worn down and savagely taken out by the non-stop pressure of Feliciano.

Both fighters were looking for redemption, but unfortunately both came away empty as an “accidental head-butt“ by Rodriguez opened a deep cut on the forehead of Collins in the second round and led to their scheduled 10-round welterweight bout Friday night being called a no-contest.

After a slow start, D-Rod caught fire in the second stanza, asserted himself, and made it pretty clear how this fight would end. The Collins corner, quickly seeming to recognize their fighter was in a place that was only going to get worse, contended the cut was too deep for him to continue. The fight was then halted by the doctor. Perhaps a slick move on the part of Collins’s corner, but jus another questionable one for boxing. It brought back less-than-pleasant memories of Camacho Jr vs. Jesse James Leija.

As the replay clearly showed, there was no butt, or at least none that was caught on the tapes. There was, however, a strong slashing right (the kind that cuts) that hit Collins exactly on the spot where the cut occurred. Still, Referee Eddie Claudio maintained the cut was the result of an accidental head butt.

Well, it was either one or the other, but based on what I saw (or didn’t see), I say the former. Indeed, most corners will not argue for the fight to be stopped under such conditions, that is, unless the corner belongs to a Camacho Jr against Leija. But there is one way to find out and hopefully the New York State boxing commission will use it by reviewing the tapes.

Manifestly, a boxing match should never be stopped while some judge watches a 3-minute replay of a round, but if the 60 seconds between rounds is enough time for the TV editors to give us replays of the hardest punches, ones that might have caused cuts, there is more than enough time for judges to watch those same replays? If Teddy Atlas or Joe Tessitore can do it in 30 seconds, surely a referee can as well.

It’s time for state commissions to get smart and start taking advantage of technology, albeit carefully, to help the referees and other officials make the right calls.

It was my time to shine and they ripped me off. Lennox Lewis on his draw with Evander Holyfield.

Postscript: The tapes were reviewed and D-Rod got the win.

[blegit]

People need to quit the song of "fighters should fight through every damn thing." Fans have to take their emotions out of their decision making. They're fighters but they still have families to go back to after the fight. The doctor himself said there was blood behind his eye! If that is not grounds for stopping a fight then what the hell is Even if he was down 10 rounds no corner or doctor should've let him continue. When does a fight merit stoppage after a butt? He was bleeding behind the eye and if he would've taken further damage he would have been risking permanent blindness. Besides the fact that they were nearly butting all fight every replay on every camera angle showed the butt caused the cut and since it was before the fifth round started then the fight is ruled a no contest. The rules are clear and the so was the tape. No matter what you want it to be the tape shows it clearly that the ref blew it. This is actually a poster boy for stopping a fight due to accidental butt. You can call Nate heartless or whatever but that doesn't take away from the facts that are the butt caused the cut, he had blood behind his eye, he couldn't see, and the fight only went 3 rounds. No contest.

[Spicoli]

Rodriguez-Collins: Another argument for instant replay

On August 27, 2007 on ESPN, all action fighter Delvin Rodriguez, a native of the Dominican Repu , met talented Keenan Collins (12-2-1 with 8 Kos) of Reading, Pa., who was coming off a split decision loss. D-Rod entered the bout with a 20-2-1 record with 12 knockouts, and was coming off a KO loss to Jesse Feliciano for the USBA welterweight title. In that televised thriller, Rodriguez, dominated the early rounds, but was eventually worn down and savagely taken out by the non-stop pressure of Feliciano.

Both fighters were looking for redemption, but unfortunately both came away empty as an “accidental head-butt“ by Rodriguez opened a deep cut on the forehead of Collins in the second round and led to their scheduled 10-round welterweight bout Friday night being called a no-contest.

After a slow start, D-Rod caught fire in the second stanza, asserted himself, and made it pretty clear how this fight would end. The Collins corner, quickly seeming to recognize their fighter was in a place that was only going to get worse, contended the cut was too deep for him to continue. The fight was then halted by the doctor. Perhaps a slick move on the part of Collins’s corner, but jus another questionable one for boxing. It brought back less-than-pleasant memories of Camacho Jr vs. Jesse James Leija.

As the replay clearly showed, there was no butt, or at least none that was caught on the tapes. There was, however, a strong slashing right (the kind that cuts) that hit Collins exactly on the spot where the cut occurred. Still, Referee Eddie Claudio maintained the cut was the result of an accidental head butt.

Well, it was either one or the other, but based on what I saw (or didn’t see), I say the former. Indeed, most corners will not argue for the fight to be stopped under such conditions, that is, unless the corner belongs to a Camacho Jr against Leija. But there is one way to find out and hopefully the New York State boxing commission will use it by reviewing the tapes.

Manifestly, a boxing match should never be stopped while some judge watches a 3-minute replay of a round, but if the 60 seconds between rounds is enough time for the TV editors to give us replays of the hardest punches, ones that might have caused cuts, there is more than enough time for judges to watch those same replays? If Teddy Atlas or Joe Tessitore can do it in 30 seconds, surely a referee can as well.

It’s time for state commissions to get smart and start taking advantage of technology, albeit carefully, to help the referees and other officials make the right calls.

It was my time to shine and they ripped me off. Lennox Lewis on his draw with Evander Holyfield.

Postscript: The tapes were reviewed and D-Rod got the win.

Remember that.Lets face it,these scenarios happen almost every weekend with varing levels of exposure depending on the fighter.But ultimately the result is the same,A fighter has no say.Well,at least does not have hindsight of particular actions at that time.Instant replay is waaaaaaaaay over due and will benefit all.Think a big part is the commissions and promoters being hesitant to undercut or second guess their appointed officials,as that would call for them to ensure accountability.Stop and think of the amount of reversals,disputed verdicts we would be seeing.Last thing the officials want is a spotlight on them.

speaking of shite calls,have you seen the Anthony Thompson & Ishmail Arvin fight last year (?).Exact same thing happened as last weekend,3rd round clear head clash and bad cut on Thompson but he continued on until he was ruled Tko loser in 6th Thompson was clearly winning the fight,dropped Arvin twice in the same round in that case.Now thats a shit call!!If anyone finds video of the chaos and dispute in the ring,Its very revealing and MUST see,around here in a FnF ESPN thread somewhere.