If UFC can do it, why can't the WBC/WBA/IBF Etc..

**KananKrus** · 08-06-2009 05:52 PM

Guys, if you liked the way Cung Le, an Asian American of Vietnamese decent fought, you too would have liked Alex Gong, another Asian American of Muay Thai fightiing background.

It is too bad that his life was cut short tragically, much like ala Vernon Forrest, he ran after a vandal doing a job on his car in a back parking lot.

Check him out, this guy is relentless in his style, and he shares the same sense of invincibility in Muay Thai, as to Cung Le in WuShu.

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Speaking of WEC World Extreme Cage Fightiing...
Uriah Faber and Mike Brown, as mentioned by Bilbo, have fought twice for a title fight under the WEC banner.

**KananKrus** · 08-06-2009 06:43 PM

Oftentimes it is the grappling and the long and enduring submissions techniques in an MMA fight that boxing afficionados like myself will find much to be unexciting. To add.. the neck-locks or submission techniques involving the neck, I find riveting. I refuse to bear witness to an accidental death in the ring. Accidental deaths in boxing carries a truer meaning to it than an accidental death in an MMA contest.

It has happened before, in an Octagon PPV match in the early 90's, which led to a temporary halt to the sport. The brutal sport soonafter was revived but now re-packaged, and likewise re introduced with the logical

, weight classifications and set of rules in place to avert these accidental ring deaths.

They somehow put some logic on the restraints to lessen the savagery on display in an MMA fight.

If you like a high display of skill in fighting without the boring grappling and the cringe-inspiring death embraces, then K-1 (especially the heavies) or Muay Thai would be good alternatives to boxing, where striking is guaranteed, be it fistic or with kicks, the aspect in the fighting sport I do enjoy watching.

....and I don't have to worry about heads coming loose off their sockets!

**holmcall** · 08-06-2009 07:04 PM

I really enjoy Muay Thai. Got to watch a lot of bouts while doing some R & R in Thailand.

**generalbulldog** · 08-06-2009 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by KananKrus

Oftentimes it is the grappling and the long and enduring submissions techniques in an MMA fight that boxing afficionados like myself will find much to be unexciting. To add.. the neck-locks or submission techniques involving the neck, I find riveting. I refuse to bear witness to an accidental death in the ring. Accidental deaths in boxing carries a truer meaning to it than an accidental death in an MMA contest.

It has happened before, in an Octagon PPV match in the early 90's, which led to a temporary halt to the sport. The brutal sport soonafter was revived but now re-packaged, and likewise re introduced with the logical

, weight classifications and set of rules in place to avert these accidental ring deaths.

They somehow put some logic on the restraints to lessen the savagery on display in an MMA fight.

If you like a high display of skill in fighting without the boring grappling and the cringe-inspiring death embraces, then K-1 (especially the heavies) or Muay Thai would be good alternatives to boxing, where striking is guaranteed, be it fistic or with kicks, the aspect in the fighting sport I do enjoy watching.

....and I don't have to worry about heads coming loose off their sockets!

I think you summed it up pretty well, because there are a lot boxing fans out there that do not find the ground game appealing in MMA. I do enjoy Muay Thai kickboxing because of the strikes as do K1, but I don't think I can ever really be interested of MMA because of the grappling. It's just not aesthetically appealing.

**awdleyfuturehalloffamer** · 08-06-2009 07:23 PM

i just watched the shamrock cung lee matchup and thought shamrock was going to knock cung lee out, then all of a sudden lee connects with a kick to the head with 10 seconds left in the round and shamrock couldn't recover in between rounds. Very technical fight but not to bad exciting wise.

**VictorCharlie** · 08-06-2009 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i just watched the shamrock cung lee matchup and thought shamrock was going to knock cung lee out, then all of a sudden lee connects with a kick to the head with 10 seconds left in the round and shamrock couldn't recover in between rounds. Very technical fight but not to bad exciting wise.

Cung Le broke Shamrock's arm with a kick. That was why he didn't continue

**awdleyfuturehalloffamer** · 08-06-2009 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by VanChilds

Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

i just watched the shamrock cung lee matchup and thought shamrock was going to knock cung lee out, then all of a sudden lee connects with a kick to the head with 10 seconds left in the round and shamrock couldn't recover in between rounds. Very technical fight but not to bad exciting wise.

Cung Le broke Shamrock's arm with a kick. That was why he didn't continue

Shamrock was dominating at the end until that kick landed to his head. Then he stopped and fell back into the fence. It didn't connect to his arm from what i could tell. It looked like a head shot. I can't see shamrock dominating for 30 seconds with a broken arm.

**VictorCharlie** · 08-06-2009 07:56 PM

Watch it again. Frank blocked most of the kick with his wrist/forearm and broke it thus he couldn't continue

**VictorCharlie** · 08-06-2009 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by KananKrus

Oftentimes it is the grappling and the long and enduring submissions techniques in an MMA fight that boxing afficionados like myself will find much to be unexciting. To add.. the neck-locks or submission techniques involving the neck, I find riveting. I refuse to bear witness to an accidental death in the ring. Accidental deaths in boxing carries a truer meaning to it than an accidental death in an MMA contest.

It has happened before, in an Octagon PPV match in the early 90's, which led to a temporary halt to the sport. The brutal sport soonafter was revived but now re-packaged, and likewise re introduced with the logical

, weight classifications and set of rules in place to avert these accidental ring deaths.

They somehow put some logic on the restraints to lessen the savagery on display in an MMA fight.

If you like a high display of skill in fighting without the boring grappling and the cringe-inspiring death embraces, then K-1 (especially the heavies) or Muay Thai would be good alternatives to boxing, where striking is guaranteed, be it fistic or with kicks, the aspect in the fighting sport I do enjoy watching.

....and I don't have to worry about heads coming loose off their sockets!

Please cite a source for a death in a UFC PPV b/c I am pretty sure that never happened. I am aware of only one death ever in a sanctioned MMA fight and one in an unsanctioned fight done in Russia. I've seen stats list 70 deaths from sanctioned boxing matches since 1998 compared to 1 in MMA. So assuming my information is correct your disdain for "savagery" sounds more like ignorance of the tremendous talent and athleticism of the top mixed martial artists of the world.