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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    Yeah Jones, Hopkins, Calzaghe is the way Id see it.

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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    I would'nt say Jones beat a prime Hopkins really.Jones was far ahead in Pedigree,amatuer and network exposure and Hopkins was still in his early seek and destroy mindset.But he beat him none the less.

    Depends again on that always blurry definition of p4p.On pure boxing skillset,I give it to Hopkins.On speed,reflex and instinct...Jones by far.On 'names' minus the *'s about being shot,past prime...Its Joe.I need aspirin now.

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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    I agree with gest1264,it could of been different if Joe had got some more big fights in his career.
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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    I see it Hopkins just ahead of Jones, & then a larger gap to Calzaghe. All are Top 75 ATGs for me though

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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    I go with

    Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

    Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

    Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

    Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time
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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    I go with

    Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

    Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

    Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

    Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time
    Hopkins claims to have won junior titles from the age of nine and had around 100 amateur fights before going into prison.
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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    I go with

    Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

    Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

    Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

    Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time
    Hopkins claims to have won junior titles from the age of nine and had around 100 amateur fights before going into prison.

    Hate to cause static mate but I would need to see where that happened because that is the first I ever heard of that
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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    I go with

    Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

    Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

    Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

    Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time
    Hopkins claims to have won junior titles from the age of nine and had around 100 amateur fights before going into prison.

    Hate to cause static mate but I would need to see where that happened because that is the first I ever heard of that
    I thought it was common knowledge that Hopkins claimed a 95-4 amatuer record?

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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    I go with

    Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

    Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

    Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

    Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time
    I agree with you Daxx on all your points.
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    Default Re: Who's higher P4P of all time

    I dont hate Roy in fact I was a fan before he tested positive but the fact that you fail to realize is Roy cheated and I will call him out on it everytime. I like how you're acting as if I'm jealous of him I've never tried or wanted tto become a world classs boxer, making a bit of money for food n shelter suits me just fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth View Post
    I dont hate Roy in fact I was a fan before he tested positive but the fact that you fail to realize is Roy cheated and I will call him out on it everytime. I like how you're acting as if I'm jealous of him I've never tried or wanted tto become a world classs boxer, making a bit of money for food n shelter suits me just fine
    You can call him out anytime you'd like...but if he tested positive why wasn't the fight stripped..Like toney's against ruiz, like margarito being suspended, like panama being banned?
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