Who's higher P4P of all time

[OumaFan]

Hopkins
Roy
Calzaghe

I'd probably put Bernard top 30 all time, somewhere around that. Not sure where I'd put Roy or Calzaghe, they're definitely on the list somewhere obviously.

[DAWGSWIN]

1. RJJ
2. Joe
3. BHop

This is harder than I thought it would be. RJ had a win over Hop early, and Joe had one late. The problem is that its hard to define Hopkins' "Prime." He has fought and won at a high level since his loss to JC. I think RJ is a little easier to graph, as far as when he declined significantly. You just can't discount that JC win over Hopkins either. I don't know, I'm not at all a fan of JC, but I could make an argument to put him at 1.

[JonesJrMayweather]

I go with

Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time

Jones wasn't prime when he beat hopkins..they were both green..and neither had really discovered who they were as professionals.

I'm going with:

1) B-hop
2) RJJ
3) Calzaghe

Hopkins has the bigger names and the better career than the other two and it's still not over. RJJ lacks the names Hopkins has but not the skill. Calzaghe also lacks the names, and his win over Hopkins is disputed while Jones was really nowhere near prime form. All are great fighters but I'm just trying to show why I'm placing them where I did.

Bigger names in terms of money? Then its just oscar..but BHOP's opponents aren't near jones...Hop has victories over two potential HOF's Jones has six. No one on Hop's record is anywhere near Toney. And since people like to tarnish both jones wins over Toney and Hopkins himself...then hopkins beat two blown up WW's at MW, a weight drained Tarver, and a one dimensional Pavlik..

[JonesJrMayweather]

I go with

Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time

Jones wasn't prime when he beat hopkins..they were both green..and neither had really discovered who they were as professionals.

I'm going with:

1) B-hop
2) RJJ
3) Calzaghe

Hopkins has the bigger names and the better career than the other two and it's still not over. RJJ lacks the names Hopkins has but not the skill. Calzaghe also lacks the names, and his win over Hopkins is disputed while Jones was really nowhere near prime form. All are great fighters but I'm just trying to show why I'm placing them where I did.

Bigger names in terms of money? Then its just oscar..but BHOP's opponents aren't near jones...Hop has victories over two potential HOF's Jones has six. No one on Hop's record is anywhere near Toney. And since people like to tarnish both jones wins over Toney and Hopkins himself...then hopkins beat two blown up WW's at MW, a weight drained Tarver, and a one dimensional Pavlik..

[BIG H]

RJJ
Nard
JC


....But Calzaghe deserves more credit for the win over Hopkins. I don't care if B-Hop was 50 when that fight took place he was still (and is still) an awesome fighter, as he showed against Pavlik, which was directly after the JC fight and against Wright and Tarver whicher were directlly before JC. The Tarver, Wright and Pavlick wins are the best of his career imo.