Froch is the favourite for Super Six Tournament

[Kev]

Carl Froch7/4
Mikkel Kessler11/4
Arthur Abraham7/2
Jermain Taylor5/1
Andre Ward10/1
Andre Dirrell14/1


I think Taylor is the only one that CAN'T win it!!

I actually agree with these odds entirely to be honest, at least from British bookies who stand to lose most if Froch wins.

Ward looks good money at 10/1, the way he completely and utterly outboxed Miranda would bode well for a fight with Froch and maybe Abraham who he could well outwork, especially in the early rounds.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Ward is most worth a bet at those odds, Taylor could potentially beat them all but the chances of him not being KO'd having to face virtually all of that lot is a very big gamble to take, I agree, as much as he could potentially beat any of them on his day, he's no way going to make it through all of them without being sparked at some point.

Taylor aside. Abraham and Froch to me are probably the most beatable. I can see the likes of Kessler and Ward outboxing both of them. Not saying they will, but that they have a great chance to.

Against this level of opposition it will be hard for Abraham I think who usually doesn't get going until about round 5. I can't see him being able to give away the first third of the fight at this level.

Froch could be outboxed by all of them although his power and will to win will see him through some of these fights.

But as he's going to have to go to the well for each fight it's a hard ask and a lot of physical toll on his body to slug toe to toe against all of this lot.

Kessler's jab could be the key to the whole event.

He's the man to beat imo, although Ward could cause problems, in some ways a shame they are fighting in the first round, I think Ward does well in this event.

[Rantcatrat]

Carl Froch7/4
Mikkel Kessler11/4
Arthur Abraham7/2
Jermain Taylor5/1
Andre Ward10/1
Andre Dirrell14/1


I think Taylor is the only one that CAN'T win it!!

I actually agree with these odds entirely to be honest, at least from British bookies who stand to lose most if Froch wins.

Ward looks good money at 10/1, the way he completely and utterly outboxed Miranda would bode well for a fight with Froch and maybe Abraham who he could well outwork, especially in the early rounds.

If I was a betting man, I'd say Ward is most worth a bet at those odds, Taylor could potentially beat them all but the chances of him not being KO'd having to face virtually all of that lot is a very big gamble to take, I agree, as much as he could potentially beat any of them on his day, he's no way going to make it through all of them without being sparked at some point.

Taylor aside. Abraham and Froch to me are probably the most beatable. I can see the likes of Kessler and Ward outboxing both of them. Not saying they will, but that they have a great chance to.

Against this level of opposition it will be hard for Abraham I think who usually doesn't get going until about round 5. I can't see him being able to give away the first third of the fight at this level.

Froch could be outboxed by all of them although his power and will to win will see him through some of these fights.

But as he's going to have to go to the well for each fight it's a hard ask and a lot of physical toll on his body to slug toe to toe against all of this lot.

Kessler's jab could be the key to the whole event.

He's the man to beat imo, although Ward could cause problems, in some ways a shame they are fighting in the first round, I think Ward does well in this event.

Ward wasn't able to knock out Miranda who was previously knocked out by Pavlik (1st) and Abraham (2nd). Ward may not have the punching power at the elite level and the tournament favors knockouts; knockouts get the winner 3 points as opposed to 2. He risks winning fights and still being eliminated. Abraham and Froch are arguably the biggest punchers of the bunch, but as mentioned each has weaknesses. Kessler has to be the favorite because he is a proven commodity at 168 and (outside of JT) has faced the best competitio. Yet even Kessler has questions marks - his inactivity and inability to face elite competition since his loss to Calzaghe. Dirrell hasn't shown me enough in his career to show me he has what it takes to win this one. He'll be a good pick if he blows by Froch in Nottingham.

[El Kabong]

Carl Froch7/4
Mikkel Kessler11/4
Arthur Abraham7/2
Jermain Taylor5/1
Andre Ward10/1
Andre Dirrell14/1


I think Taylor is the only one that CAN'T win it!!

TAYLOR?!?! I think Ward doesn't have much of a shot either, his competition of late isn't the best.

I think the smart money is on Kessler or Abraham....or Dirrell whom at those odds, I really like.

How is the second round going to go Who fights who next and does someone get a bye

[El Kabong]

Also, let's not kid ourselves Taylor was outboxing Froch until that last round! Taylor was up 106-102 on 2 of the cards and unexplicably JT was down 102-106 on another judge's card.

Mikkel Kessler and Arthur Abraham can box AND punch so Froch is going to have trouble with them IF he's able to get past Dirrell who is also a solid boxer.

The only issue I have with AA is that like Bernard Hopkins, he gives away the first half of the fight by playing defense and allowing his opponent to gas himself out. I think if JT plays it smart (which signs point that he won't) he'll win rounds at a slow pace and then saves some energy for the late rounds then he can survive and maybe even win that fight. He has to be better on defense and use the jab better and MOVE FFS, he stands still too much these days.

[Stander]

Remember Kesseler counter punch Joe C those early rounds.....i feel he could win it if he had not been so inactive since the Calzaghe fight. Personally, I'm pulling for Mikkel Kessler

[Majesty]

Speaking of opponents. Froch's highest opponent to date is Jermain Taylor, and Andre Ward's is Edison Miranda. Have any of the other guys beaten someone better then those two? Well Kessler beat Mundine so I'd say thats about it.

[Kev]

Speaking of opponents. Froch's highest opponent to date is Jermain Taylor, and Andre Ward's is Edison Miranda. Have any of the other guys beaten someone better then those two? Well Kessler beat Mundine so I'd say thats about it.

To be honest, you could even make a case that Jean Pascal is a better opponent than most of them have faced.

Is Mundine, or an old Beyer better than Pascal? I don't know?

Is Mundine even a world champion? I think he's only ever held a title when Kessler has been promoted to super champ, not sure he's actually won a real belt.

Pascal has go to be on the same level as Miranda, considering he's a legit 175 light heavyweight world champ now and Miranda never won a world title at all.

No question Froch has the best resume going into this, at least as far as recent form goes.


Will that mean anything when the tournament starts, we'll have to wait and see.

Certainly only Kessler and Froch have beaten any world champs. Ward, Dirrell, Abraham have never faced another world champ past, present or futue I don't believe.

Taylor has, but Froch ko'd him hence his status as favourite.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Speaking of opponents. Froch's highest opponent to date is Jermain Taylor, and Andre Ward's is Edison Miranda. Have any of the other guys beaten someone better then those two? Well Kessler beat Mundine so I'd say thats about it.

To be honest, you could even make a case that Jean Pascal is a better opponent than most of them have faced.

Is Mundine, or an old Beyer better than Pascal? I don't know?

Is Mundine even a world champion? I think he's only ever held a title when Kessler has been promoted to super champ, not sure he's actually won a real belt.

Pascal has go to be on the same level as Miranda, considering he's a legit 175 light heavyweight world champ now and Miranda never won a world title at all.

No question Froch has the best resume going into this, at least as far as recent form goes.


Will that mean anything when the tournament starts, we'll have to wait and see.

Certainly only Kessler and Froch have beaten any world champs. Ward, Dirrell, Abraham have never faced another world champ past, present or futue I don't believe.

Taylor has, but Froch ko'd him hence his status as favourite.

Kessler's onesided win over Librado Andrade was better than Froch's lucky KO over Taylor, for one it was against a fighter who was an established Super Middleweight, and secondly he dominated from start to finish, not get horribly outboxed for the first 8 to 9 rounds then get a lucky ko in the 12th

[Kev]

Speaking of opponents. Froch's highest opponent to date is Jermain Taylor, and Andre Ward's is Edison Miranda. Have any of the other guys beaten someone better then those two? Well Kessler beat Mundine so I'd say thats about it.

To be honest, you could even make a case that Jean Pascal is a better opponent than most of them have faced.

Is Mundine, or an old Beyer better than Pascal? I don't know?

Is Mundine even a world champion? I think he's only ever held a title when Kessler has been promoted to super champ, not sure he's actually won a real belt.

Pascal has go to be on the same level as Miranda, considering he's a legit 175 light heavyweight world champ now and Miranda never won a world title at all.

No question Froch has the best resume going into this, at least as far as recent form goes.


Will that mean anything when the tournament starts, we'll have to wait and see.

Certainly only Kessler and Froch have beaten any world champs. Ward, Dirrell, Abraham have never faced another world champ past, present or futue I don't believe.

Taylor has, but Froch ko'd him hence his status as favourite.

Kessler's onesided win over Librado Andrade was better than Froch's lucky KO over Taylor, for one it was against a fighter who was an established Super Middleweight, and secondly he dominated from start to finish, not get horribly outboxed for the first 8 to 9 rounds then get a lucky ko in the 12th

I like Andrade, he's a good honest pro who never gives up, but let's be real, he can't box for shit.

He gets outboxed by everybody decent and Kessler, a boxer with tremendous fundamentals and jab was always going to pummel him all night.

I think Jermain Taylor would beat him like a drum for 10 rounds at least also.

Taylor is a MUCH better boxer than Andrade, not as tough and durable for sure, but being outboxed by Jermain Taylor in the early rounds is a whole ball park away from being outboxed by Librado Andrade.

Froch's win over Taylor has been greatly underestimated by many. First off it was big step up in class for Froch, secondly he was away from home, fighting one of boxings superstars, and thirdly he came back from the worst start to a fight in his pro career being floored in the third round.

If you actually watch the fight without your blinkers on you'd see that Froch had Taylor in trouble from about round 5 on, it was a very even fight from that moment on with Taylor gradually wilting to Froch's pressure.

It was a great win from Froch, sloppy early on for sure, but from round 5 onwards he was in no way outclassed or embarrassed.

He will be a force in this tournament for sure.

[skel1983]

Speaking of opponents. Froch's highest opponent to date is Jermain Taylor, and Andre Ward's is Edison Miranda. Have any of the other guys beaten someone better then those two? Well Kessler beat Mundine so I'd say thats about it.

To be honest, you could even make a case that Jean Pascal is a better opponent than most of them have faced.

Is Mundine, or an old Beyer better than Pascal? I don't know?

Is Mundine even a world champion? I think he's only ever held a title when Kessler has been promoted to super champ, not sure he's actually won a real belt.

Pascal has go to be on the same level as Miranda, considering he's a legit 175 light heavyweight world champ now and Miranda never won a world title at all.

No question Froch has the best resume going into this, at least as far as recent form goes.


Will that mean anything when the tournament starts, we'll have to wait and see.

Certainly only Kessler and Froch have beaten any world champs. Ward, Dirrell, Abraham have never faced another world champ past, present or futue I don't believe.

Taylor has, but Froch ko'd him hence his status as favourite.

Kessler's onesided win over Librado Andrade was better than Froch's lucky KO over Taylor, for one it was against a fighter who was an established Super Middleweight, and secondly he dominated from start to finish, not get horribly outboxed for the first 8 to 9 rounds then get a lucky ko in the 12th

How was it lucky?? It was very close on the scorecards, do you not think Frochs gameplan was to bring the heat in the last third of the fight as he new what Taylor was like? To call it lucky is pathetic mate, you also forgot to mention he beat the current WBC 175 lb champ, personally Froch imo is probably second fav behind Kessler as like others said he has proven against two world class fighters and beat them the two younger Americans have basically done nothing and were still unsure how they will be when they step it in at world level.

Kessler
Froch
Abraham
Taylor
Ward
Dirrell

Is about right with what they have all done so far in there career.

[denilson200]

If was doing a book on this.

I'd have

Andre Dirrell 2/1
Andre Ward 2/1
Mikell Kessler 2/1
Jermain Taylor 4/1
Arthur Abraham 4/1
Carl Froch 6/1

[Kev]

If was doing a book on this.

I'd have

Andre Dirrell 2/1
Andre Ward 2/1
Mikell Kessler 2/1
Jermain Taylor 4/1
Arthur Abraham 4/1
Carl Froch 6/1

Damn, you'd be in liquidation by Christmas

[El Kabong]

The way I see it is through the match ups these guys have.

Froch-Dirrell: Dirrell has answered a lot of questions, he's not got the greatest chin, he has great athletic ability and handspeed. Dirrell can also switch from lefty to righty pretty decently. I just think his handspeed and his stamina will help him vs Froch. 50/50 fight, I think Dirrell is a fresher, faster, and more powerful version of JT.

Abraham-Taylor: AA is a lot like Bernard Hopkins, he gives away rounds and JT has done well with that before, all he has to do is pace himself and use some damn defense!!! 70/30 AA is at the advantage with his current form BUT this will be the first fight he has ever had at 168 and he might be like Pavlik and can't fight there for some odd reason.

Kessler-Ward: Andre Ward is the greenest of the fighters in this tourny and Kessler is the most experienced. It would be a MAJOR upset for Mikkel to lose this bout. 80/20 obviously in favor of Kessler.

The only way I would give Froch a better shot to win is if he either fought JT again (which would still be difficult) or Andre Ward. It would have been nice if Tavoris Cloud could have made 168 for this!

[Kev]

The way I see it is through the match ups these guys have.

Froch-Dirrell: Dirrell has answered a lot of questions, he's not got the greatest chin, he has great athletic ability and handspeed. Dirrell can also switch from lefty to righty pretty decently. I just think his handspeed and his stamina will help him vs Froch. 50/50 fight, I think Dirrell is a fresher, faster, and more powerful version of JT.

Abraham-Taylor: AA is a lot like Bernard Hopkins, he gives away rounds and JT has done well with that before, all he has to do is pace himself and use some damn defense!!! 70/30 AA is at the advantage with his current form BUT this will be the first fight he has ever had at 168 and he might be like Pavlik and can't fight there for some odd reason.

Kessler-Ward: Andre Ward is the greenest of the fighters in this tourny and Kessler is the most experienced. It would be a MAJOR upset for Mikkel to lose this bout. 80/20 obviously in favor of Kessler.

The only way I would give Froch a better shot to win is if he either fought JT again (which would still be difficult) or Andre Ward. It would have been nice if Tavoris Cloud could have made 168 for this!

Dirrell is greener than Ward. Ward has beaten Miranda, and he also beat Henry Buchanan who wasn't bad.

Dirrel has beaten Victor Oganov and Anthony Hanshaw, hardly a whose who of supermiddles.


Dirrell might be a great fighter but as of right now we have no way to know exactly what he has. We will find out for sure though when he fights Froch.

[RP33]

The way I see it is through the match ups these guys have.

Froch-Dirrell: Dirrell has answered a lot of questions, he's not got the greatest chin, he has great athletic ability and handspeed. Dirrell can also switch from lefty to righty pretty decently. I just think his handspeed and his stamina will help him vs Froch. 50/50 fight, I think Dirrell is a fresher, faster, and more powerful version of JT.

Abraham-Taylor: AA is a lot like Bernard Hopkins, he gives away rounds and JT has done well with that before, all he has to do is pace himself and use some damn defense!!! 70/30 AA is at the advantage with his current form BUT this will be the first fight he has ever had at 168 and he might be like Pavlik and can't fight there for some odd reason.

Kessler-Ward: Andre Ward is the greenest of the fighters in this tourny and Kessler is the most experienced. It would be a MAJOR upset for Mikkel to lose this bout. 80/20 obviously in favor of Kessler.

The only way I would give Froch a better shot to win is if he either fought JT again (which would still be difficult) or Andre Ward. It would have been nice if Tavoris Cloud could have made 168 for this!

70/30 AA over Taylor? I'd say 60/40. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Taylor was able to defeat him. 70/30 would make it a pretty big upset and besides the weight, i don't see much of an advantage for AA. He beat up Miranda worse than Pavlik did (in the second fight), and Pavlik obviously KO'd JT but styles make fights and i think JT will be pretty active and his defense has greatly increased after the first Pavlik fight. He had a perfect gameplan to beat Kelly and he almost did (and did in some peoples opinion). AA is too economical with his punches so he's almost relying on a KO to beat Taylor if he fights that way.