Who's higher P4P of all time

[Jody Lane]

I go with

Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time

I agree with you Daxx on all your points.

[Truth]

I dont hate Roy in fact I was a fan before he tested positive but the fact that you fail to realize is Roy cheated and I will call him out on it everytime. I like how you're acting as if I'm jealous of him I've never tried or wanted tto become a world classs boxer, making a bit of money for food n shelter suits me just fine

[JonesJrMayweather]

I dont hate Roy in fact I was a fan before he tested positive but the fact that you fail to realize is Roy cheated and I will call him out on it everytime. I like how you're acting as if I'm jealous of him I've never tried or wanted tto become a world classs boxer, making a bit of money for food n shelter suits me just fine

You can call him out anytime you'd like...but if he tested positive why wasn't the fight stripped..Like toney's against ruiz, like margarito being suspended, like panama being banned?

[Truth]

Shy Does Mosley still have his win over De La Hoya when he tested positive?
Politics Politics Politics, I love how you're trying to show boxing is fair and that justice would've been srved and all that garbage even though boxing is probably the most corrupt sport in the world

[JonesJrMayweather]

Shy Does Mosley still have his win over De La Hoya when he tested positive?
Politics Politics Politics, I love how you're trying to show boxing is fair and that justice would've been srved and all that garbage even though boxing is probably the most corrupt sport in the world

Shane mosley has his win over oscar because the victim says he believed shane to be innocent of knowingly cheating...so if the victim is cool with it why can't you be?

[Truth]

Because he cheated and it's bad for the sport to not punish someone when they've cheated regardless of how other parties involved feel.

[Majesty]

Because he cheated and it's bad for the sport to not punish someone when they've cheated regardless of how other parties involved feel.

IT was a small amount and was a result of an over the counter thing called Ripped Fuel. And I'm pretty sure Roy didn't know about it. And regardless of that he didn't need it to beat Richard Hall.

Richard Hall tested positive as well. But he wouldn't have been subjected to punishment because at the time it was the IBF that was testing Jones because he was the champion, and the WBA was where Richard Hall was ranked so he wasn't subjected to any punishment whatsoever since the IBF was the one making the call as Jones was their champion and the winner whereas Hall wasn't rated by their organization.

So case in point is that if Roy had tested positive on both the A sample and the B sample he would have gotten punished and Hall wouldn't, so both sides wouldn't have been punished equally anyway it would have ALL fallen on Jones. Which wouldn't have been fair either.

And why Roy wasn't stripped of his titles?

Here's why, because you give two tests an A sample and B sample. If the A sample is positive the B sample is sent to the commission to be tested, if it comes back positive your title is vacated. Roy's came back negative.

And he was required to give his samples in his next two fights, both of which came back negative as well. So it was as simple as Roy being informed Ripped Fuel had an illegal substance in it and Roy didn't use it anymore. Simple as that.


So can we quit with all the "he cheated he was steroid using" stuff?