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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Two fighters who stand flat-footed, let their hands go, and "hit and get hit."

    Great matchup. I can't wait.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Man this is a good fight! Really glad they got it sorted, hard fight to pick imo... might have to slightly favor Pavlik at 1st glance but might end up changing my mind the closer it gets to fight time!
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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Williams is slick but kelly will have plenty of chances to tag him. Even after the bernard loss I favor kelly in this, that fight was above 160, and in both instances against jt and bhop weight above 160 kelly just doesn't seem as good. Granted the bhop fight could have been fought at whatever weight and he would have lost it.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    This will be a great fight!

    Not sure who will win. Pavlik obviously has doubts surrounding him following his loss to B Hop but I really believe that was more to do with Pavlik having the worst night of his career rather than him being outboxed as comprehensively as some think. I'd still fancy Pavliks chances in a rematch with Hopkins, I don't think he gave anywhere near his best that night.

    Williams is a real threat but he did fade a little against Margarito in the final rounds, although at welter I'm guessing he has to struggle hard to make that weight.

    We know Pavlik can go 12 rounds and he can really bang. Williams has always looked fragile although at 168 he will have clearly filled out.

    I really can't call it. I'd like Kelly to pull it off, everyone seems to have hopped onto that bandwagon following his sensational KO wins over Miranda and Taylor, and then all got off at the first stop following his uninspired defeat to B Hop.

    He showed against Rubio though that he is excellent at wearing down and demoralising decent opposition and it will be interesting to see how Williams reacts to that.

    I actually think there is a chance Williams could get stopped on cuts, I think he's going to get bloodied up a bit, although he's always seemed a suprisingly durable guy for his frail, bony form so I think he will survive the distance otherwise.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    This will be a great fight!

    Not sure who will win. Pavlik obviously has doubts surrounding him following his loss to B Hop but I really believe that was more to do with Pavlik having the worst night of his career rather than him being outboxed as comprehensively as some think. I'd still fancy Pavliks chances in a rematch with Hopkins, I don't think he gave anywhere near his best that night.

    Williams is a real threat but he did fade a little against Margarito in the final rounds, although at welter I'm guessing he has to struggle hard to make that weight.

    We know Pavlik can go 12 rounds and he can really bang. Williams has always looked fragile although at 168 he will have clearly filled out.

    I really can't call it. I'd like Kelly to pull it off, everyone seems to have hopped onto that bandwagon following his sensational KO wins over Miranda and Taylor, and then all got off at the first stop following his uninspired defeat to B Hop.

    He showed against Rubio though that he is excellent at wearing down and demoralising decent opposition and it will be interesting to see how Williams reacts to that.

    I actually think there is a chance Williams could get stopped on cuts, I think he's going to get bloodied up a bit, although he's always seemed a suprisingly durable guy for his frail, bony form so I think he will survive the distance otherwise.
    The fight will be at 160.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    this is awesome news.

    it's really hard to call this fight as you can't really pin which style PW will use.. He has the skills to outwork kelly and to move around the ring away from kelly's power, and if he keeps him at bay with his jab then he has a good chance at a wide UD.. but when have we really seen PW do this? he may be in over his head, but it will really be hard to tell until they're in the ring and we see how big the speed difference is, and how PW approaches kelly..

    i say pavlik by KO.. not TKO, KO.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    This will be a great fight!

    Not sure who will win. Pavlik obviously has doubts surrounding him following his loss to B Hop but I really believe that was more to do with Pavlik having the worst night of his career rather than him being outboxed as comprehensively as some think. I'd still fancy Pavliks chances in a rematch with Hopkins, I don't think he gave anywhere near his best that night.

    Williams is a real threat but he did fade a little against Margarito in the final rounds, although at welter I'm guessing he has to struggle hard to make that weight.

    We know Pavlik can go 12 rounds and he can really bang. Williams has always looked fragile although at 168 he will have clearly filled out.

    I really can't call it. I'd like Kelly to pull it off, everyone seems to have hopped onto that bandwagon following his sensational KO wins over Miranda and Taylor, and then all got off at the first stop following his uninspired defeat to B Hop.

    He showed against Rubio though that he is excellent at wearing down and demoralising decent opposition and it will be interesting to see how Williams reacts to that.

    I actually think there is a chance Williams could get stopped on cuts, I think he's going to get bloodied up a bit, although he's always seemed a suprisingly durable guy for his frail, bony form so I think he will survive the distance otherwise.
    The fight will be at 160.

    yeah I mean that just a typo.

    50/50 matchup imo

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Awesome news.

    If it goes the distance, then it is Williams. Because he would have out out-volumed Kelly. He is an absolute punch machine.

    Interesting fight at 160. If Pavlik can retain his power, then I don't expect it to go the distance and be a 7-8 rd KO. Williams doesn't have the durability to last with a hard puncher. Kelly does.

    I like both fighters, but am a Pavlik fan and honestly think this is his to win.

    Hopefully he don't go batshit crazy before it and ball punch too many more fans, or drink 3 gallons of whiskey and try to bellyflop hammer smash his promoter from atop his barn, or, or...well, you know.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    I know it's an obvious statement but I think it all hinges on KP's prepearation and whether he gives it 100%, after dome of the recent stories we've been hearing it would appear he needs to re focus. Hopefully all just gossip.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Pavlik's only chance is to land his big right hand and that's about it.
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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    I hope Pavlik has his life away from boxing in order coming into this fight also... It was sad reading that he went on a bit of a downer after the Hopkins fight... It really was a destroying fight for Pavlik, and not just for the 12 rounds, but you could see his heart was broken after that fight... A bit like Hatton in the interviews after his Pac KO, those sort of beatings make you go off and think about your whole life.... What you thought was one thing you're whole career is suddenly totally gone...
    I hope Pavlik is getting his shit back in alignment and comes back as big and as strong as he was before Hopkins... He's a good dimension for boxing, a real likeable guy, and it would at least be great to see him do good in this fight even if Williams is to much.. Williams is exciting in his own right so providing Pavlik shows up with his shit together it'll be a great fight whoever wins..
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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Williams can be hit, and Kelly can punch, so Kelly certainly has a chance. Still leaning towards Williams as he can work all day when not drained, seems to be more confidence in his own work as well compared to the late rounds in his breakout fight against Marg.

    Williams by wide UD after having his chin tested a few times.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Im all for Williams' Bravery (as iv'e always said Williams shed's shit loads of weight for a reason) and i was happy to see Williams offering his services as high up as 168... But i didn't think he'd take on the best 160lbs'er out there... He's gonna get abused by Pavlik!

    Williams can take on the ex-junior-middleweights and the big welters and so on but this Genuine 160 pound monster will ruin Paul Williams.
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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him
    I think Williams stops Pavlik late...he's a southpaw, he can carry his power, he throws punches in volume, and he's got a very solid chin, I am sure he will pay close attention to defense fighting someone like Pavlik.

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