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To be honest, you could even make a case that Jean Pascal is a better opponent than most of them have faced.

Is Mundine, or an old Beyer better than Pascal? I don't know?

Is Mundine even a world champion? I think he's only ever held a title when Kessler has been promoted to super champ, not sure he's actually won a real belt.

Pascal has go to be on the same level as Miranda, considering he's a legit 175 light heavyweight world champ now and Miranda never won a world title at all.

No question Froch has the best resume going into this, at least as far as recent form goes.


Will that mean anything when the tournament starts, we'll have to wait and see.

Certainly only Kessler and Froch have beaten any world champs. Ward, Dirrell, Abraham have never faced another world champ past, present or futue I don't believe.

Taylor has, but Froch ko'd him hence his status as favourite.
Kessler's onesided win over Librado Andrade was better than Froch's lucky KO over Taylor, for one it was against a fighter who was an established Super Middleweight, and secondly he dominated from start to finish, not get horribly outboxed for the first 8 to 9 rounds then get a lucky ko in the 12th
How was it lucky?? It was very close on the scorecards, do you not think Frochs gameplan was to bring the heat in the last third of the fight as he new what Taylor was like? To call it lucky is pathetic mate, you also forgot to mention he beat the current WBC 175 lb champ, personally Froch imo is probably second fav behind Kessler as like others said he has proven against two world class fighters and beat them the two younger Americans have basically done nothing and were still unsure how they will be when they step it in at world level.

Kessler
Froch
Abraham
Taylor
Ward
Dirrell

Is about right with what they have all done so far in there career.

Factoring in achievements AND form (otherwise Taylor would be higher) I totally agree with your list. Just remembered that Abraham-Miranda 2 happened at SM, or 166 at least, SO I think Abraham and Wards respective performances are somewhat relevant, and that Abraham should be able to absorb and give solid punches in this tourney, but outbosing some of the slicker fighters may be a problem.