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    Default Re: Boxers like Jones Jr missing the point of MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    Anderson Silva called Roy out, he's the one who brought this up originally and has talked repeatedly how its one of his dreams to "box" Roy Jones Jr. As far as I know they've never even talked about it being an MMA fight, how would it make sense for Anderson Silva to call out Roy Jones for an MMA fight?

    "Forcing Silva to box"

    There is no forcing here. Far from it.

    Anderson Silva: "Maybe in the future I can make a boxing match happen, not against Fedor but against Roy Jones Jr. Actually, I'm waiting for that fight."

    This is a very strange argument you're making Bilbo.

    Even as it regards to your general argument, you hear more about MMA guys wanting to test their boxing skills against boxers (Silva, Nick Diaz, etc.) then you hear boxers calling MMA guys out for boxing matches.

    Ah I thought it was Roy calling Silva out.

    Either way I don't like the fight at all. Jones is a boxer, Silva is a mized martial artist I don't want to see either compromise their fighting arts.

    I think money must be a factor. I'm guessing that in the UFC they don't make a great deal, certainly not millions.

    I'm not sure how big a fight between Silva and Anderson would be though.

    I mean in my experience MMA and boxing tend to have two seperate sets of fans more than those who love both sports.

    I'm not sure MMA fans would be at all interested in Silva fighting a guy outside of their own sporting interest.

    Plus how popular is Roy Jones these days? Even his fight with Calzaghe was hardly a mega event, I don't see how fighting Silva could be that huge.

    I don't think this fight would make millions for either fighter really. By far I'd rather watch Silva fight Rampage Jackson or Lyto Machida, maybe even St Pierre.

    And Jones, well if he isn't going to retire as he should, then maybe fight someone like Pavlik, Hopkins, Dawson. Ok so he'll lose but at least the fights are worthwhile, fighting Lacy is just a sideshow, and fighting Silva would be on the same level as Tyson's exhibition against Corrie Sanders.
    You were on the money in your first post though: a boxer would have to have exceptional footwork to be able to go against a mma fighter just to stay out of range and not get the legs kicked out from under them, without the slipped punches turning into elbows and so on down into the grapple and submit stage.
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    I think it has to be accepted that these are two different fish ! World class boxer deals with MMA in a boxing match everytime, turn the reverse and the boxer is F****d.

    I can't imagine too many boxers that could take a single quality kick to the legs let alone to the head.likewise handling a grappling match, some boxers can't event clinck when they get in trouble so imagine when they get grounded.

    I have been watching some UFC this year as it's been a bit quiet with some of the big matches cancelled. I appreciate these guys and what they do but I still consider boxing a much more rounded and structured sport.

    Let's not have any of these crossover matchups , won't be good for either sport in the end.

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    Default Re: Boxers like Jones Jr missing the point of MMA

    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    I think it has to be accepted that these are two different fish ! World class boxer deals with MMA in a boxing match everytime, turn the reverse and the boxer is F****d.

    I can't imagine too many boxers that could take a single quality kick to the legs let alone to the head.likewise handling a grappling match, some boxers can't event clinck when they get in trouble so imagine when they get grounded.

    I have been watching some UFC this year as it's been a bit quiet with some of the big matches cancelled. I appreciate these guys and what they do but I still consider boxing a much more rounded and structured sport.

    Let's not have any of these crossover matchups , won't be good for either sport in the end.
    I agree skip it altogether. Otherwise you would have to make it a cross section of 30 seconds of each sport for, 4 minute rounds to make it anywhere near even .
    You would have to start with boxing and even then our boys would have to come out hot and firing to have any chance of seeing out a whole round.
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