Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
MMA was great at first because it included lots of styles, however MMA is almost a style in itself these days.
Fact.

I also disagree with Bilbo's premise that boxing is a martial art - bare knuckle stuff maybe at a push but boxing is a sport - you punch anyone with a bare fist the way you would with a wrapped gloved hand chances are you're going to bust it. I've known people do it...by the same point I've seen ex-boxers end a scuffle with a couple of jabs.

Muay thai taught as a sport is different than what they teach you as self defence.

All that kicky flashy TKD shit you see is sport & not what I'd consider as a MA.
Point and semi-contact fighting is sport not MA.