Was Lennox truly dull?

[THE THIRD MAN]

Watching Lennox Lewis was like watching concrete set! Slow and lumbering, Holmes and Ali would have boxed his ears off, Foreman would have flattened him and a prime Tyson would have destroyed him, i can't see him avoiding Smokin Joe's left hook either.

[C.J.Rock]

George Foreman would disagree with you He said the same I i have " Lennox Lewis is the best HW champion since Ali. George said there was no way he could beat Lennox
Lennox beat every man he fought in the pro ring. The fights he lost were basically his own fault he totally underestimated McCall & turned up late & out of shape in S Africa to fight Rahman. Lennox focussed destroyed both
Arise Sir Lennoz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ryanman]

i don't see any heavy beating Lewis, not saying he is the best ever but i just don't think physically the heavys of the past could have coped. Factoring in natural progress through the eras i would still put lennox top 5.

[ICB]

i don't see any heavy beating Lewis, not saying he is the best ever but i just don't think physically the heavys of the past could have coped. Factoring in natural progress through the eras i would still put lennox top 5.

Larry Holmes would have beaten Lennox Lewis.

[J_Undisputed]

As strategic and intelligent (albeit boring) in the ring as he was... I think the major points a lot of Non-pro Lennox contigency here is trying to make is that:
A. He didn't have the highest regarded chin. (In both of the Ko's, we was obliterated and had to be filled in later on what happened... and he was rocked by briggs and one or two others--Mavrovic maybe?.) That doesn't bode well for his chances against elite big punchers in their prime that wouldn't allow themselves to be fed the jab all day.

B. He didnt have many fights against stick and move speedsters. Most of any seek and destroy aggression deployed by Lewis came against lumbering plodders with lead feet and mental instability or green horns like michael grant who really didnt like getting hit at all.

It could also be argued that at the time he fought the older less effective versions of tyson and Holyfield, He wasn't the Lennox that average about 230lbs. He was coming in anywhere from 245-250. In fact, if he fought many of greatest heavyweights throughout history, he'd be enjoying a 20 -30 lb advantage prime for prime. So the point could also be made that Lennox looked great amongst his contemporaries because many of them were bigger, heavier and less agile...Leaving the window open for him being outboxed and outpaced by faster slicker fighters and/or being Knocked out regardless of weight due to his "less than granite" chin. Still in these fights noone knows what would happen or who would prevail...as theire are other possibilities, such as Lennox out thinking them /catching them cold/ a lucky punch/ dq's/ etc. I think the point being made though is that with many situational varibles, its possible maybe even probably that Lennox wouldn't be as dominant in any heavyweight picture you put him in.

[littlebif]

Even when he was in safety mode he still throws his right hand alot more than Wlad does when he fights .

[ryanman]

Even when he was in safety mode he still throws his right hand alot more than Wlad does when he fights .

absolutely, wlad makes lennox look like a real mayorga!

[LBSCFC]

i think the chess player mentality steered him towards to side of caution. However he had his fair share of exciting fights and performances. Mason, Ruddock, Bruno, Mercer, Golota, Briggs, Grant, Botha, Rahman, Klitschko.

He was the most dominant heavyweight of his era so he must have been doing something right.

[J_Undisputed]

I was never much of a Lennox Fan, but I credit him with being one of the smarter fighters in heavyweight history. Yeah he was slow and kinda of boring most of the time, but the truth is he took the easiest route to win the fight because he was smart enough to.
He used distance,a heavy jab and movement against guys he couldn't afford to get into a fire fight with and bum rushed the guys he knew were mentally fragile or known for not having a heart. He was a boxer more than a fighter... and a strategist as opposed to a beast. Its a formula that brought him success.
I really only took exception when he used strategy to coast to a safe win and celebrated by pounding his chest like he just mauled someone.

[kingfrnk]

I dont think Lennox was dull. Hes one of the heavyweights i actually enjoy watching.

[DaxxKahn]

Watching Lennox Lewis was like watching concrete set! Slow and lumbering, Holmes and Ali would have boxed his ears off, Foreman would have flattened him and a prime Tyson would have destroyed him, i can't see him avoiding Smokin Joe's left hook either.

Lennox had a superb jab...Not quite the quality of Holmes but would give Larry a run for his money...He was stronger and he was a better finisher...

Frazier would have ended up the same way as he did in the Foreman fight...Lennox was fond of the uppercut perfect for the crossarm defense to sneak through.......

He would have given Ali a run for his money and Prime for Prime he was a better boxer then Tyson and a harder one punch KO finisher.....Lewis ate the Right hands of Mercer and Tua who were harder punchers then Tyson who was a quanity volume combination KO finisher not a one shot knockout artist

He was a better boxer then Foreman but of course the power did not compare (In his prime no one compared to Foreman)....

How can you believe all these men would have flattened and outboxed Lennox so easily?

[THE THIRD MAN]

Watching Lennox Lewis was like watching concrete set! Slow and lumbering, Holmes and Ali would have boxed his ears off, Foreman would have flattened him and a prime Tyson would have destroyed him, i can't see him avoiding Smokin Joe's left hook either.

Lennox had a superb jab...Not quite the quality of Holmes but would give Larry a run for his money...He was stronger and he was a better finisher...

Frazier would have ended up the same way as he did in the Foreman fight...Lennox was fond of the uppercut perfect for the crossarm defense to sneak through.......

He would have given Ali a run for his money and Prime for Prime he was a better boxer then Tyson and a harder one punch KO finisher.....Lewis ate the Right hands of Mercer and Tua who were harder punchers then Tyson who was a quanity volume combination KO finisher not a one shot knockout artist

He was a better boxer then Foreman but of course the power did not compare (In his prime no one compared to Foreman)....

How can you believe all these men would have flattened and outboxed Lennox so easily?

Two names McCall and Rahman, both were not in the same class as the others mentioned. Lewis just appeared lazy to me, Frazier would have got in underneath him and let that left hook go, if he could flatten Ali with it then Lewis would be no problem. Tyson in 1986-88 would destroy him, Holmes and Ali would win easy UD decisions (Holyfield made Lewis look slow and lumbering in fight number 2)and Big George might not think he could have beaten Lewis but he would have landed something big and Lewis would be counting light globes! I'm talking about the George of 1973!

[DaxxKahn]

Watching Lennox Lewis was like watching concrete set! Slow and lumbering, Holmes and Ali would have boxed his ears off, Foreman would have flattened him and a prime Tyson would have destroyed him, i can't see him avoiding Smokin Joe's left hook either.

Lennox had a superb jab...Not quite the quality of Holmes but would give Larry a run for his money...He was stronger and he was a better finisher...

Frazier would have ended up the same way as he did in the Foreman fight...Lennox was fond of the uppercut perfect for the crossarm defense to sneak through.......

He would have given Ali a run for his money and Prime for Prime he was a better boxer then Tyson and a harder one punch KO finisher.....Lewis ate the Right hands of Mercer and Tua who were harder punchers then Tyson who was a quanity volume combination KO finisher not a one shot knockout artist

He was a better boxer then Foreman but of course the power did not compare (In his prime no one compared to Foreman)....

How can you believe all these men would have flattened and outboxed Lennox so easily?

Two names McCall and Rahman, both were not in the same class as the others mentioned. Lewis just appeared lazy to me, Frazier would have got in underneath him and let that left hook go, if he could flatten Ali with it then Lewis would be no problem. Tyson in 1986-88 would destroy him, Holmes and Ali would win easy UD decisions (Holyfield made Lewis look slow and lumbering in fight number 2)and Big George might not think he could have beaten Lewis but he would have landed something big and Lewis would be counting light globes! I'm talking about the George of 1973!

Your basing this on 2 losses by an undertrained fighter?...Whats next Henry Cooper could have dropped Lewis because he dropped Ali?.....You are comparing the competition of Tyson in 86-88 to the skillset of Lennox Lewis?.....

These are not valid reasons for what you stated.....You are discounting a career of huge wins over high caliber fighters (at the time) against 2 short comings.....

[ryanman]

Lennox had a superb jab...Not quite the quality of Holmes but would give Larry a run for his money...He was stronger and he was a better finisher...

Frazier would have ended up the same way as he did in the Foreman fight...Lennox was fond of the uppercut perfect for the crossarm defense to sneak through.......

He would have given Ali a run for his money and Prime for Prime he was a better boxer then Tyson and a harder one punch KO finisher.....Lewis ate the Right hands of Mercer and Tua who were harder punchers then Tyson who was a quanity volume combination KO finisher not a one shot knockout artist

He was a better boxer then Foreman but of course the power did not compare (In his prime no one compared to Foreman)....

How can you believe all these men would have flattened and outboxed Lennox so easily?

Two names McCall and Rahman, both were not in the same class as the others mentioned. Lewis just appeared lazy to me, Frazier would have got in underneath him and let that left hook go, if he could flatten Ali with it then Lewis would be no problem. Tyson in 1986-88 would destroy him, Holmes and Ali would win easy UD decisions (Holyfield made Lewis look slow and lumbering in fight number 2)and Big George might not think he could have beaten Lewis but he would have landed something big and Lewis would be counting light globes! I'm talking about the George of 1973!

Your basing this on 2 losses by an undertrained fighter?...Whats next Henry Cooper could have dropped Lewis because he dropped Ali?.....You are comparing the competition of Tyson in 86-88 to the skillset of Lennox Lewis?.....

These are not valid reasons for what you stated.....You are discounting a career of huge wins over high caliber fighters (at the time) against 2 short comings.....

well said, the brutal revenge he took on both these men ADDS to his legacy. Lennox has better names on his record than any other heavy of the last 30 years (it seems weird that 1980 was almost 30 years ago!)

[DaxxKahn]

Two names McCall and Rahman, both were not in the same class as the others mentioned. Lewis just appeared lazy to me, Frazier would have got in underneath him and let that left hook go, if he could flatten Ali with it then Lewis would be no problem. Tyson in 1986-88 would destroy him, Holmes and Ali would win easy UD decisions (Holyfield made Lewis look slow and lumbering in fight number 2)and Big George might not think he could have beaten Lewis but he would have landed something big and Lewis would be counting light globes! I'm talking about the George of 1973!

Your basing this on 2 losses by an undertrained fighter?...Whats next Henry Cooper could have dropped Lewis because he dropped Ali?.....You are comparing the competition of Tyson in 86-88 to the skillset of Lennox Lewis?.....

These are not valid reasons for what you stated.....You are discounting a career of huge wins over high caliber fighters (at the time) against 2 short comings.....

well said, the brutal revenge he took on both these men ADDS to his legacy. Lennox has better names on his record than any other heavy of the last 30 years (it seems weird that 1980 was almost 30 years ago!)

Yes it does and Yes he did

Now that you mention it it doesnt seem like 1980 was that long ago.....