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Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
Let's just be clear on this also. We are not saying Jones no longer has the skills, or even that he doesn't have great handspeed. He is still capable of flashy combinations and has good reflexes, and his boxing skill even now is still leaps above most other fighters.

So he can look great against a punching bag which is what Lacy and Sheika were.

What he no longer has is the punch resistance, the legs, the tank to last 12 hard rounds, and probably the will to risk it all to win.

If those characteristics and attributes will not get tested against the likes of Lacy so Jones looks great, against a top fighter though they are tested and he'll be clearly found wanting.

Hopkins and Winky are both lacking themselves in those attributes now and so will fight a slow paced boxing match, skill versus skill, so they represent winnable fights for Roy.

But his physical weaknesses will be ruthlessly exposed at the top level against younger, hungrier fighters.
dawson has a better chance of beating jones than pavlik does yes, what u say is for a different conversation, jones against pavlik tho, i think pavlik gets destroyed, im not disagreeing with everthing u say but simply put pavlik gets schooled by jones, thats my argument bilbo mate

Jones couldn't destroy Pavlik, he couldn't destroy Anthony Hanshaw or Badi Ajamu he's certainly not destroying the middleweight champ.

Also even Tarver, if Jones was to fight Tarver for the fourth time my money is on Tarver. He's not at the level of Dawson clearly, with two losses but he was at least competitive with him, especially in the second fight and he beat a solid world champ in Clinton Woods.

Jones has done nothing in several years. Beating Omar Sheika and Jeff Lacy don't mean a thing. Peter Manfredo nearly beat Jeff Lacy, Otis Griffin DID beat Jeff Lacy but was robbed, Griffin was beaten up by Jesse Brinkley let's not forget and has lost 6 of his last 7, yet clearly was better than Jeff Lacy.

As I've said already this weekend I'm not sure Jones even gets past Danny Green. If Green lands on him he could be sparked cold for the third time in his career, certainly Green is the biggest puncher he's faced since Glen Johnson.