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    In "football" for each team, do the players have to be from that region? Or can any team sign any player from any region.

    if it's where they have to be from the region they play for then thats awesome.. it's sort of like high school sports all over again.. real rivalries..

    in american football and any american sport, it's just money and just becuase you're the Dallas Cowboys doesn't have anything to do with you being FROM dallas. So there are still division rivalries and what not but it's really the fans who are rivals as opposed to the players..

    The best rivalry in sports, Red Sox/Yankees, is great, and i'm proud to be from new england/the boston area, to be a part of the rivalry, but as i said it's fans that make the rivalries.. the players get along just fine for the most part, and have plenty of respect for each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    In "football" for each team, do the players have to be from that region? Or can any team sign any player from any region.

    if it's where they have to be from the region they play for then thats awesome.. it's sort of like high school sports all over again.. real rivalries..

    in american football and any american sport, it's just money and just becuase you're the Dallas Cowboys doesn't have anything to do with you being FROM dallas. So there are still division rivalries and what not but it's really the fans who are rivals as opposed to the players..

    The best rivalry in sports, Red Sox/Yankees, is great, and i'm proud to be from new england/the boston area, to be a part of the rivalry, but as i said it's fans that make the rivalries.. the players get along just fine for the most part, and have plenty of respect for each other.
    Yankees Red Sox is a friendly competition compared to various football club rivalries around the world. Anyway till the Red Sox win another ten or fifteen world championships it isn't actually a rivalry.

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    At least it will (hopefully) thin out and improve the gene pool. Bunch of fucking idiots. How pathetic is your life if you're inclined to do something like this? Participating in these types of things should be grounds for euthanasia.

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    As a West Ham fan, I found that a complete embarassment, many of both sets of fans disgracing themselves, with the Millwall fans giving our players monkey chants, although I can say from experience that the home stand is far from a hub of racial equality.

    Rushing onto the pitch in celebration AT THE END would of been understandable. Doing it during the game & trying to get onto the pitch to get at the Millwall fans was stupid & will damage the club financially no doubt, something we can definitely do without out.

    What happened last night was not 'passion in the game', that's still there at every home game, what it was was a bunch of dickheads trying to show that they're 'still young/hard/up for it' or some other Danny Dyer-esque bollocks. As for the stuff goin on outside, well... fuck it... what can you say they're twats.

    Although like hth says everyone knew it was going to happen, yet somehow the police still seemed ill-prepared & why they didn't prepare for a pitch invasion when we got the penalty I don't know

    I would like to point out Jack Collison who was an image of pure class among the fat-bellied drunken dicks stumbling onto the pitch. On Sunday, his father died in a traffic accident on his way to see him play against Spurs, yet last night he put in a man of the match performance & also was key in getting fans to leave the pitch & go back to their seats. In a sea of idiots embarassing the club, at least he made me proud to support the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    As a West Ham fan, I found that a complete embarassment, many of both sets of fans disgracing themselves, with the Millwall fans giving our players monkey chants, although I can say from experience that the home stand is far from a hub of racial equality.

    Rushing onto the pitch in celebration AT THE END would of been understandable. Doing it during the game & trying to get onto the pitch to get at the Millwall fans was stupid & will damage the club financially no doubt, something we can definitely do without out.

    What happened last night was not 'passion in the game', that's still there at every home game, what it was was a bunch of dickheads trying to show that they're 'still young/hard/up for it' or some other Danny Dyer-esque bollocks. As for the stuff goin on outside, well... fuck it... what can you say they're twats.



    Although like hth says everyone knew it was going to happen, yet somehow the police still seemed ill-prepared & why they didn't prepare for a pitch invasion when we got the penalty I don't know

    I would like to point out Jack Collison who was an image of pure class among the fat-bellied drunken dicks stumbling onto the pitch. On Sunday, his father died in a traffic accident on his way to see him play against Spurs, yet last night he put in a man of the match performance & also was key in getting fans to leave the pitch & go back to their seats. In a sea of idiots embarassing the club, at least he made me proud to support the club.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    As a West Ham fan, I found that a complete embarassment, many of both sets of fans disgracing themselves, with the Millwall fans giving our players monkey chants, although I can say from experience that the home stand is far from a hub of racial equality.

    Rushing onto the pitch in celebration AT THE END would of been understandable. Doing it during the game & trying to get onto the pitch to get at the Millwall fans was stupid & will damage the club financially no doubt, something we can definitely do without out.

    What happened last night was not 'passion in the game', that's still there at every home game, what it was was a bunch of dickheads trying to show that they're 'still young/hard/up for it' or some other Danny Dyer-esque bollocks. As for the stuff goin on outside, well... fuck it... what can you say they're twats.

    Although like hth says everyone knew it was going to happen, yet somehow the police still seemed ill-prepared & why they didn't prepare for a pitch invasion when we got the penalty I don't know

    I would like to point out Jack Collison who was an image of pure class among the fat-bellied drunken dicks stumbling onto the pitch. On Sunday, his father died in a traffic accident on his way to see him play against Spurs, yet last night he put in a man of the match performance & also was key in getting fans to leave the pitch & go back to their seats. In a sea of idiots embarassing the club, at least he made me proud to support the club.
    Jack Collison is the complete exception in this modern day world we live in. Not 48 hours after finding out his dad had been killed coming to watch him play and he throws on a west ham shirt when everyone would of fully understood him taking time out just shows the class of this fella. Young, hardworking, determained footballer - thats the west ham way

    For what its worth i was one of the thousands booing the idiocy of those twats that chose to run onto the pitch and hope to god they all get life bans for being so stupid and bringing the club into disrepute.

    The football club will be the biggest losers in all this and that guts me as we are potless as it is and will no doubt have to play a game or two behind closed doors costing the club millions. But the violence outside last night was years of pent up anger that spilled onto the streets and it should of been dealt with much better than it was!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    As a West Ham fan, I found that a complete embarassment, many of both sets of fans disgracing themselves, with the Millwall fans giving our players monkey chants, although I can say from experience that the home stand is far from a hub of racial equality.

    Rushing onto the pitch in celebration AT THE END would of been understandable. Doing it during the game & trying to get onto the pitch to get at the Millwall fans was stupid & will damage the club financially no doubt, something we can definitely do without out.

    What happened last night was not 'passion in the game', that's still there at every home game, what it was was a bunch of dickheads trying to show that they're 'still young/hard/up for it' or some other Danny Dyer-esque bollocks. As for the stuff goin on outside, well... fuck it... what can you say they're twats.

    Although like hth says everyone knew it was going to happen, yet somehow the police still seemed ill-prepared & why they didn't prepare for a pitch invasion when we got the penalty I don't know

    I would like to point out Jack Collison who was an image of pure class among the fat-bellied drunken dicks stumbling onto the pitch. On Sunday, his father died in a traffic accident on his way to see him play against Spurs, yet last night he put in a man of the match performance & also was key in getting fans to leave the pitch & go back to their seats. In a sea of idiots embarassing the club, at least he made me proud to support the club.
    Jack Collison is the complete exception in this modern day world we live in. Not 48 hours after finding out his dad had been killed coming to watch him play and he throws on a west ham shirt when everyone would of fully understood him taking time out just shows the class of this fella. Young, hardworking, determained footballer - thats the west ham way

    For what its worth i was one of the thousands booing the idiocy of those twats that chose to run onto the pitch and hope to god they all get life bans for being so stupid and bringing the club into disrepute.

    The football club will be the biggest losers in all this and that guts me as we are potless as it is and will no doubt have to play a game or two behind closed doors costing the club millions. But the violence outside last night was years of pent up anger that spilled onto the streets and it should of been dealt with much better than it was!!

    Sad fact of life that a few always spoil it. This again puts in jeopary Englands chances of hosting the big events. I have mate who support both teams involved and they are all good lads, pity they end up all being branded the same. You'd think that every fan was involved in it the way it gets covered.

    As a Celtic Fan I know what it's like to get caught up in all of this shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    As a West Ham fan, I found that a complete embarassment, many of both sets of fans disgracing themselves, with the Millwall fans giving our players monkey chants, although I can say from experience that the home stand is far from a hub of racial equality.

    Rushing onto the pitch in celebration AT THE END would of been understandable. Doing it during the game & trying to get onto the pitch to get at the Millwall fans was stupid & will damage the club financially no doubt, something we can definitely do without out.

    What happened last night was not 'passion in the game', that's still there at every home game, what it was was a bunch of dickheads trying to show that they're 'still young/hard/up for it' or some other Danny Dyer-esque bollocks. As for the stuff goin on outside, well... fuck it... what can you say they're twats.

    Although like hth says everyone knew it was going to happen, yet somehow the police still seemed ill-prepared & why they didn't prepare for a pitch invasion when we got the penalty I don't know

    I would like to point out Jack Collison who was an image of pure class among the fat-bellied drunken dicks stumbling onto the pitch. On Sunday, his father died in a traffic accident on his way to see him play against Spurs, yet last night he put in a man of the match performance & also was key in getting fans to leave the pitch & go back to their seats. In a sea of idiots embarassing the club, at least he made me proud to support the club.
    Jack Collison is the complete exception in this modern day world we live in. Not 48 hours after finding out his dad had been killed coming to watch him play and he throws on a west ham shirt when everyone would of fully understood him taking time out just shows the class of this fella. Young, hardworking, determained footballer - thats the west ham way

    For what its worth i was one of the thousands booing the idiocy of those twats that chose to run onto the pitch and hope to god they all get life bans for being so stupid and bringing the club into disrepute.

    The football club will be the biggest losers in all this and that guts me as we are potless as it is and will no doubt have to play a game or two behind closed doors costing the club millions. But the violence outside last night was years of pent up anger that spilled onto the streets and it should of been dealt with much better than it was!!

    Sad fact of life that a few always spoil it. This again puts in jeopary Englands chances of hosting the big events. I have mate who support both teams involved and they are all good lads, pity they end up all being branded the same. You'd think that every fan was involved in it the way it gets covered.

    As a Celtic Fan I know what it's like to get caught up in all of this shite.
    Too true mate

    it doesnt help when youve got old bill throwing you in with the ones who are fighting and smashing you with batons for no particular reason believing by doing this it`ll deter you from fighting

    No problems whatsoever with organised violence, if 2 sets of supporters wanna kill eachother thats perfectly fine.

    But what i saw on tuesday was far beyond that. A girl getting a glass smashed over her head just for wearing a millwall shirt. Fella initmidating supporters while his 3 year old boy looks on. Innocent bystanders leaving the scene of the crime having been pelted with bricks or tins of lager not to mention endless smashed up buses, cars etc

    If you were in and around green street inparticularly outside the station around 6pm you would of witnessed something quite surreal and ive certainly never been apart of anything quite as large scale as that was!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    In "football" for each team, do the players have to be from that region? Or can any team sign any player from any region.

    if it's where they have to be from the region they play for then thats awesome.. it's sort of like high school sports all over again.. real rivalries..

    in american football and any american sport, it's just money and just becuase you're the Dallas Cowboys doesn't have anything to do with you being FROM dallas. So there are still division rivalries and what not but it's really the fans who are rivals as opposed to the players..

    The best rivalry in sports, Red Sox/Yankees, is great, and i'm proud to be from new england/the boston area, to be a part of the rivalry, but as i said it's fans that make the rivalries.. the players get along just fine for the most part, and have plenty of respect for each other.
    Yankees Red Sox is a friendly competition compared to various football club rivalries around the world. Anyway till the Red Sox win another ten or fifteen world championships it isn't actually a rivalry.
    the yankees are one of, if not the best franchise in all of sports history.. with that said, to say that the red sox/yankees are not a rivalry is a joke..

    besides the baseball teams, it's simply a boston/new york geographical thing.. rivalry in and of itself..

    as far as the teams go, the red sox can't compare to the amount of rings the yankees have won, but "what have you done for me lately?"..

    in the last TEN years, considering i'm 23, i would say that 10 years ago, when i was 13 would be an age where i had a favorite baseball team and had the capacity to care about them:

    Red Sox: 6 playoff appearances, 5 ALCS appearances, and 2 WS appearances in which they won both.

    Yankees: 9 playoff appearances, 5 ALCS appearances, 4 WS appearances in which they won 2.

    While i understand the history of the yankees and know that they are the reigning kings in all sports, to say that the above stats, along with the ridiculously long history of the two teams from the trading of Babe Ruth, don't prove a rivalry then i don't know what else to say.. All i can say is that when i dated my ex gf from NY and went to see her family around 2007, they weren't saying "how many rings do you have?!" after the Sox won the series and the Yankees didn't make it out of the ALDS.. they legitimately considered the Sox a constant threat..

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    I like rivalry a lot. But in a playful way; I am a huge Boston Bruins fan and the Habs (Montreal Canadians for those not acquainted with hockey) are my #2 BUT... where I live, close to Montreal and especially to the french canadians, Montreal is almost a religion sometimes but at least, my friends, even the die hard fans are very friendly and we use our rivalry to tease each others and have fun (and god knows that the rivalry Boston-Mtl is HUGE).
    After all, if the Montreal fans would disappear, there would be something missing and the opposite too, fans should understand that their "worst ennemies" are somehow their very best friends as they color their game and give a particular taste to their sport, I will never understand those fighting for a game, something that should be only entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    I like rivalry a lot. But in a playful way; I am a huge Boston Bruins fan and the Habs (Montreal Canadians for those not acquainted with hockey) are my #2 BUT... where I live, close to Montreal and especially to the french canadians, Montreal is almost a religion sometimes but at least, my friends, even the die hard fans are very friendly and we use our rivalry to tease each others and have fun (and god knows that the rivalry Boston-Mtl is HUGE).
    After all, if the Montreal fans would disappear, there would be something missing and the opposite too, fans should understand that their "worst ennemies" are somehow their very best friends as they color their game and give a particular taste to their sport, I will never understand those fighting for a game, something that should be only entertainment.
    I'm tentatively scheduled to go to Montreal next summer. I am intending to wear my Bruins hat the entire time and to mention Milan Lucic as many times as possible. I'm a Canucks fan first, but the Bruins and the Red Wings were my teams growing up, so they're 2a and 2b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    I like rivalry a lot. But in a playful way; I am a huge Boston Bruins fan and the Habs (Montreal Canadians for those not acquainted with hockey) are my #2 BUT... where I live, close to Montreal and especially to the french canadians, Montreal is almost a religion sometimes but at least, my friends, even the die hard fans are very friendly and we use our rivalry to tease each others and have fun (and god knows that the rivalry Boston-Mtl is HUGE).
    After all, if the Montreal fans would disappear, there would be something missing and the opposite too, fans should understand that their "worst ennemies" are somehow their very best friends as they color their game and give a particular taste to their sport, I will never understand those fighting for a game, something that should be only entertainment.
    I'm tentatively scheduled to go to Montreal next summer. I am intending to wear my Bruins hat the entire time and to mention Milan Lucic as many times as possible. I'm a Canucks fan first, but the Bruins and the Red Wings were my teams growing up, so they're 2a and 2b.
    Then,if it happens, let me know, we'll be two to get the evil eye all around
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    i aint seen the event but heard my mates talking abt it, might check it out on youtube, there all sad cnts, there not football fans as half of them dont even watch the games, if they were not football hooligans they would be part of some sad gang, if they wanna fight each other stick them all in a cage & put it on tv i would watch then, winner gets to live till his fight the next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    I like rivalry a lot. But in a playful way; I am a huge Boston Bruins fan and the Habs (Montreal Canadians for those not acquainted with hockey) are my #2 BUT... where I live, close to Montreal and especially to the french canadians, Montreal is almost a religion sometimes but at least, my friends, even the die hard fans are very friendly and we use our rivalry to tease each others and have fun (and god knows that the rivalry Boston-Mtl is HUGE).
    After all, if the Montreal fans would disappear, there would be something missing and the opposite too, fans should understand that their "worst ennemies" are somehow their very best friends as they color their game and give a particular taste to their sport, I will never understand those fighting for a game, something that should be only entertainment.
    I'm tentatively scheduled to go to Montreal next summer. I am intending to wear my Bruins hat the entire time and to mention Milan Lucic as many times as possible. I'm a Canucks fan first, but the Bruins and the Red Wings were my teams growing up, so they're 2a and 2b.
    Then,if it happens, let me know, we'll be two to get the evil eye all around

    football is the one sole sport that regales fans with such passion that more than often it does spill out onto the streets and crowd violence is all too common in our beloved game.

    I could be seen anywhere in the world wearing a west ham tshirt and nobody would but flutter an eyelid. However if i were to wear it in areas of south london such as bermondsey/lewisham etc i would run the risk of someone smashing a bottle over my head.

    West ham and millwalls rivalrly is one of the if not the most violent sporting conflict known. Violence erupts whenever the 2 sides meet, it goes right back to the days of the dockers and has continued ever since.

    As ive already said i deplore the scum chucking bottles and bricks into random crowds not knowing whether or not it`ll hit a pregnant woman or an innocent bystander.

    But if 2 sets of fans driven by hatred arrange an organised meet where they can get their frustrations out on eachother rather than innocent people i see no problem with football violence!
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