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    Default Re: Manny Pacquao, How great is he???

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Ring magazines top 80 fighters. This list was done in 2002. And here are the top 10.

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Muhammad Ali
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Roberto Duran
    6. Willie Pep
    7. Harry Greb
    8. Benny Leonard
    9. Sugar Ray Leonard
    10. Pernell Whitaker

    Pac and Mayweather are great but even if they win their next bout and meets in the ring and whoever wins that bout, won't make the top 10 imo. Pac has questionable decisions in some of his biggest fights, particularly his bouts with Marquez, and Floyd has a reputation of ducking the best fighters in the WW division. They're not getting into that top 10 list, even if they win their next 2 or 3 superfights. Hell I don't even think 1 of them will make it in the top 20. Here's the list from 11-20.

    11. Carlos Monzon
    12. Rocky Marciano
    13. Ezzard Charles
    14. Archie Moore
    15. Sandy Saddler
    16. Jack Dempsey
    17. Marvin Hagler
    18. Julio Cesar Chavez
    19. Eder Jofre
    20. Alexis Arguello

    The top 20 guys have a better resume than Floyd and Pac.
    I think this is a great breakdown. Pac and PBF are great talents and if we went by just that then we have top 10 arguments. But their resumes and what they've done during their tenures are not that of the top 20. I think we need to see more from Pac such as fighting some different styles, like some elite boxer movers, than just the straight in guys he's been lunching on. I think we need to see PBF fight a Mosley(not a Pac) or some top 3 welterweights. I think both these guys have extremely rare talent but they both also have been more selective than the all time greats on the fighters and/or conditions of the fights. Maybe they're not that concerned with it. But if they want all time 10 status then they should take a page out of Henry Armstrong's book.
    Last edited by blegit; 08-30-2009 at 02:40 AM.

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