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    Default Re: Marquez's training schedule

    Even though, I am going for Floyd in this fight. I am worry about burnout for JMM. I've followed him since the beginning and always knew he was one of the best fighters in the world and i"m glad to see him get his shot. If floyd loses to JMM, its something I could live with.
    Some of the training seems to be a bit contradicting though. He bulked up. Then hes stopped the weights in favor of speed. The high rate cardio, and the endurance and speed training will burn a lot off of a guy. He's eating right, it seems.... but how is he maintaining the muscle he put on doing all that cardio training if he's not using weights anymore? Its difficult for a guy with a frame that small to carry all that extra muscle while doing a lot of cardio and speed exercises if he doesnt hit the weights for a month.
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    I think some of this is lost in translation, very good read but nobody runs at their full speed for 3.1 miles. (unless they can run 3.1 miles in 10 seconds which is roughly how long the sprint energy system can work for).

    Also I don't think he's doing 3 sets of 300 sit ups... he might be doing an ab circuit with lots of different circuits and sets that add up to 300 repetitions but he's not doing 300 in a row... that would be pointless for starters.

    Sounds like he's doing a high volume of intense training, hope his nutrition is sorted if he's going to have been doing that for 5 months come fight night, or else he will be totally burned out and he'll struggle to get the mass he needs on.

    Can't fault the guy's dedication though and I suppose it's probably quiet hard to translate Sport and Exercise science from Spanish into english...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    I think some of this is lost in translation, very good read but nobody runs at their full speed for 3.1 miles. (unless they can run 3.1 miles in 10 seconds which is roughly how long the sprint energy system can work for).

    Also I don't think he's doing 3 sets of 300 sit ups... he might be doing an ab circuit with lots of different circuits and sets that add up to 300 repetitions but he's not doing 300 in a row... that would be pointless for starters.

    Sounds like he's doing a high volume of intense training, hope his nutrition is sorted if he's going to have been doing that for 5 months come fight night, or else he will be totally burned out and he'll struggle to get the mass he needs on.

    Can't fault the guy's dedication though and I suppose it's probably quiet hard to translate Sport and Exercise science from Spanish into english...

    I don't see what is so wrong with 300 situps in 3 sets. I've heard of Ali starting off with 1000 sit-ups every morning before his jog and 500 pushups. As for sprinting the entire 3.1 miles I think Marquez would be a track star not a boxer. That just seems unlikely. But then again this is Marquez we are talking about. Probably the greatest recuperative powers ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    I think some of this is lost in translation, very good read but nobody runs at their full speed for 3.1 miles. (unless they can run 3.1 miles in 10 seconds which is roughly how long the sprint energy system can work for).

    Also I don't think he's doing 3 sets of 300 sit ups... he might be doing an ab circuit with lots of different circuits and sets that add up to 300 repetitions but he's not doing 300 in a row... that would be pointless for starters.

    Sounds like he's doing a high volume of intense training, hope his nutrition is sorted if he's going to have been doing that for 5 months come fight night, or else he will be totally burned out and he'll struggle to get the mass he needs on.

    Can't fault the guy's dedication though and I suppose it's probably quiet hard to translate Sport and Exercise science from Spanish into english...

    I don't see what is so wrong with 300 situps in 3 sets. I've heard of Ali starting off with 1000 sit-ups every morning before his jog and 500 pushups. As for sprinting the entire 3.1 miles I think Marquez would be a track star not a boxer. That just seems unlikely. But then again this is Marquez we are talking about. Probably the greatest recuperative powers ever.
    I guess he just means running at his optimum speed, not his maximum. So he would slow down during that 3 minutes, but would be busting a gut trying NOT to slow down. Still very painful. Also 300 sit-ups in a set is impossible. He either isn't doing them properly or this is a typo. 99% of people don't perform sit-ups properly - i've very rarely seen anybody do them properly. I built up to do 100 sit-ups in a set, until i looked in to it and realised a REAL sit-up is a whole different ball game. When i changed technique at first i could only do 10, now its 25. Can't imagine anybody with abs strong enough to do 300. Also as somebody has said, 300 sit-ups would be utterly pointless anyway.
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    I guess he just means running at his optimum speed, not his maximum. So he would slow down during that 3 minutes, but would be busting a gut trying NOT to slow down. Still very painful. Also 300 sit-ups in a set is impossible. He either isn't doing them properly or this is a typo. 99% of people don't perform sit-ups properly - i've very rarely seen anybody do them properly. I built up to do 100 sit-ups in a set, until i looked in to it and realised a REAL sit-up is a whole different ball game. When i changed technique at first i could only do 10, now its 25. Can't imagine anybody with abs strong enough to do 300. Also as somebody has said, 300 sit-ups would be utterly pointless anyway.[/quote]

    sorry, typo of my own. Should read 3 miles.
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    While i think Marquez is the most intelligent and skilled fighter Floyd has faced...it's unfortunate that the natural size and weight advantage will not be in his favor. It's one thing if Marquez was going up in weight to fight a bigger, stronger...but SLOWER fighter. He could than use his speed and skill to his advantage. But he is going up in weight to fight a guy who is just as skilled as him AND is faster than him. Sure...when you look at them standing next to each other...the weight and size don't look all that apparent. And Floyd isn't a big guy anyways. BUT...Floyd is training on sharpening his skills....while Marquez has to train on not only the normal stuff...but also increasing his size, strength, etc. This fight will also come down to strategy. It has been proven over and over that you cannot beat Floyd with all out pressure. Floyd also isn't Pac...where he is going jump in to trade...leaving himself open to Marquez's outstanding counter punching. To beat Floyd...you need to posses a good/great jab, have great speed and endurance (2 things Floyd has in spades), and fight with controlled aggression. If Marquez can do these things...and Floyd is rusty from his near 2 year lay off...Juan has a chance. Otherwise...Floyd's natural speed advantage will lead to points victory.
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    A couple of things JMM does have on PBF is that PBF doesn't really think JMM can beat him. Thats overconfidence. So the respect that should be there is now a disadvantage. I don't think PBF fully realizes what kind of fight is in front of him. Also PBF will have been without a fight in about 2 years. He will have fight rust to some degree. Sparring helps lessens the rust but it is far different. And the size difference between PBF and JMM is very much less than the size difference between Cotto and Pac. People are really overstating this difference. I think PBF will win but I will not be one of the people shocked if this fight is a dogfight. Marquez has fought all styles, never been dominated, and has knocked out two great champions who had never been stopped, and this while moving up in weight. I actually expect this fight to be a grueling one. I will be more surprised if either fighter dominates(winning by 6 rounds or more) or wins by stoppage. JMM is the real deal and has a very great argument for #1 p4p. I am glad that PBF gave JMM this fight because he is very deserving of such a payday and limelight. Without this fight he would probably be once again overlooked, not given due credit, and knocking at doors.
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    After you put on muscle it will not just burn off by doing cardio. He is still using those muscles, just not building them. The act of tearing the muscles apart and ripping them is what makes them grow back larger. To ask someone to bulk up and take a fight properly at a higher weight this would make much more sense than working on speed then adding muscle. Flexibility, mobility, and agility are greatly compromised with larger muscles.

    The fast twitch parts of your muscles in your body are closer to your joints. I don't think he has to worry about dropping that muscle before the fight it's not going anywhere.

    I worry that his meger (5'7") body will not carry all the mass but so well (and maintain mobility). He has really broad shoulders, so I imagine his upper body is going to be carrying a large part of this weight.

    Marquez' probably didn't cheap out on trainers and dietitians for sure. Geez. What a routine.
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    Marquez is a machine! This is why he's the fighter he is today! I hope he doesn't burn out. I'm really pulling for him to shock the world!

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