Vargas coming out of retirement?

[Andre]

Unless he got into serious training for many months I can see him leading with his feet and his head getting timed and going down heavily. He had a massive ego that effected his whole fight style, this public call out to him may well work.

[DaxxKahn]

Unless he got into serious training for many months I can see him leading with his feet and his head getting timed and going down heavily. He had a massive ego that effected his whole fight style, this public call out to him may well work.

It may or may not work I would like to think he is smarter then that.....

I had an in depth conversation with him once after an interview and Vargas was one of the most down to earth guys I ever spoke to career wise,,,,He is under no illusions about what happened to him he will state frankly in public that he was rushed into fights he had no business being in and was pushed to be a brawler....

[ElTerribleMorales]

Unless he got into serious training for many months I can see him leading with his feet and his head getting timed and going down heavily. He had a massive ego that effected his whole fight style, this public call out to him may well work.

It may or may not work I would like to think he is smarter then that.....

I had an in depth conversation with him once after an interview and Vargas was one of the most down to earth guys I ever spoke to career wise,,,,He is under no illusions about what happened to him he will state frankly in public that he was rushed into fights he had no business being in and was pushed to be a brawler....

and honestly i'd agree with him, the talent was there, but well his people wanted to make the money off of his potential too early

[Kel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk

Look how big he is here

Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.

[Andre]

When someone states "I would rather swallow my own blood and die in the ring than quit".

That should tell you two things about the fighter:

He wont be thinking about timing and angles as much as he will be intent on coming forward and fighting with his heart to test yours out.

Thats not a good quality to have as the no 1 for a comeback plan if yor not 100 % fit.

If he tries a comeback, he is going to have to be much more mentally measured and know his limits than he was originally.

[JazMerkin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk

Look how big he is here

Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.

I agree with you on everything except him being punch-drunk. He was in a major movie not long ago, in which he was pretty good, & I've seen other recent interviews where he talks pretty clearly. I think this is more of a one-off interview where he's a bit inarticulate rather than evidence he's punch drunk.

Vargas does serve as Exhibit A though every time that we talk about a fighter being rushed. Not everyone can be a Tszyu or De La Hoya & be ready for world titles & the opposition that brings by their 15 pro bout

[cpcompany]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk
Look how big he is here

Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.

I agree with you on everything except him being punch-drunk. He was in a major movie not long ago, in which he was pretty good, & I've seen other recent interviews where he talks pretty clearly. I think this is more of a one-off interview where he's a bit inarticulate rather than evidence he's punch drunk.

Vargas does serve as Exhibit A though every time that we talk about a fighter being rushed. Not everyone can be a Tszyu or De La Hoya & be ready for world titles & the opposition that brings by their 15 pro bout

Vargas sounds completely punch drunk, almost on a par with James Toney. The film he made, Alpha Dog was filmed around 3 years ago, and he did sound fine then but now he doesnt. Not only is his speech incoherent and slurred, he also has the blank/confused facial expression shown by fighters who have taken a few too many.

[generalbulldog]

Man I didn't know he was slurring that bad. Yeah his speech is pretty incoherent. He reminds me of Meldrick Taylor in that interview on HBO's legendary nights.

[Violent Demise]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67-D1BKJuk

Look how big he is here

Listen to him too, he don't wanna take anymore punches he is punch drunk. It was a huge shame he was rushed but he still fought his heart out no matter who he faced.

I agree with you on everything except him being punch-drunk. He was in a major movie not long ago, in which he was pretty good, & I've seen other recent interviews where he talks pretty clearly. I think this is more of a one-off interview where he's a bit inarticulate rather than evidence he's punch drunk.

Vargas does serve as Exhibit A though every time that we talk about a fighter being rushed. Not everyone can be a Tszyu or De La Hoya & be ready for world titles & the opposition that brings by their 15 pro bout

I've heard him in other interviews as well. And he sounded fine to me. I don't think Vargas is punch drunk. I think he was actually drunk. Or buzzing pretty damn good.

[Nameless]

I hope he doesn't have the Holyfield's disease too, There is enough peoples risking to get hurt around without jumping in the bag, too.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

Anyone who gets beat by Mayorga like he did needs to stay home. What does he weigh now like 275? Some fighters just dont know when to quit.