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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Let's say Wladimir and Vitali were born in the most populous city and economic center of the US, New York City and let's pretend that Wladimir has an all American name like Warren and Vitali being Vernon and they just did what they are basically doing right now, would they get more respect and deemed as dominant and great HW champions?

    Discuss.

    Yes.
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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    I think they might have more popularity. Anything can be popular hear if its promoted the right way. Most of TV now is filled with untalented people making fools of themselves nightly. Even the losers of Idol and similar shows have websites and fan clubs run by fanboys and teeny boppers. Theres definitely a portion of fans here waiting for the next "great white hope".
    Would they get more respect? Hard to say. I would wager to say they might even get less from the traditional and hardcore boxing fans because their style is not enough blood and guts, not flashy and doesn't really fall in line with classic American form. All a matter of perception of course, but it seems like the fans of most sports over here are tapering off of their once beloved sports and only tune in for the really particularly amazing athletes or feats. Koby vs Labron, The superbowl, Boston, Yanks or Both in the world Series. The Klits would have to run through guys at a rapid pace and obliterate all comers to truley get the that kind of praise/respect here. With boxing not as popular as it was, there would have be something truley special to get peoples attention and after hurdling that, they'd be measured against the greats.
    Sports used to be so absolute here. One player transcended the sport because they were so good or passionate. Now.. Players transcend the level of play of the pack and the media puts them above the sport. There is no longer one or two Titans who have decimated all. There are a few really good guys and the fans argue over who the best is. It once was.. the best was the best and you loved them or hated them .. or "liked this guy better" but there was rarely a dispute to who was the best. The passion in sports has been replaced by greed and money. There no hand shake deals or guys taking fights as a matter of personal pride/dislike/grudges/etc. or even charity or exhibition matches. Everyone today fights or plays for the money and it shows. Thats why throwbacks almost gain instant credibility with the fans.
    They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.

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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style

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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style
    Lewis was British though not American.
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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style
    Lewis was British though not American.
    Canabrit.

    I decided any time this arguement comes up, that is how I'll address him. I'll accept Britadian too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style
    Lewis was British though not American.
    Canabrit.

    I decided any time this arguement comes up, that is how I'll address him. I'll accept Britadian too.


    Born and raised for 13 years in London, England

    Lets just call him a Londoner.
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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Lewis was British though not American.
    Canabrit.

    I decided any time this arguement comes up, that is how I'll address him. I'll accept Britadian too.


    Born and raised for 13 years in London, England

    Lets just call him a Londoner.





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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style
    Lewis was British though not American.
    Haa.Iknow.That kept me rooting against him up until he bounced Ruddock like a drunken slob .At that time the local press was still calling him Jamaican-Canadian-Brit lol.Deep question though....if he was born American,would he have had those two left feet in the early days

    Canabrit YB lol
    Last edited by Spicoli; 09-03-2009 at 03:43 PM.

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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style
    Lewis was British though not American.
    Haa.Iknow.That kept me rooting against him up until he bounced Ruddock like a drunken slob .At that time the local press was still calling him Jamaican-Canadian-Brit lol.Deep question though....if he was born American,would he have had those two left feet in the early days

    Canabrit YB lol
    Dunno,

    But he certainly wouldn't have had that dodgy accent.
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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Lewis was British though not American.
    Haa.Iknow.That kept me rooting against him up until he bounced Ruddock like a drunken slob .At that time the local press was still calling him Jamaican-Canadian-Brit lol.Deep question though....if he was born American,would he have had those two left feet in the early days

    Canabrit YB lol
    Dunno,

    But he certainly wouldn't have had that dodgy accent.
    Never know now.....could have been spawned out of Mississippi,gulf coast.Picture him talking like Tavoris Cloud

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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style
    One thing your missing. Over 80% of american's are white, and there has not been a white american heavyweight champion since Rocky Marciano. although noone likes to admit it, race still makes a difference in the usa. (see Gerry Cooney)

    Even with his predicitble style, had Klitschko been born and raised in Youngstown, Ohio, he would be a mainstream celeberty like ODHL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    No,did Americans ever and or easily embrace Lennox Lewis or just say 'Ahaa told you so' when he was flattened twice?Not all but most American and 'casual' boxing fans want their heavyweights getting hit,coming forward and going for KO's.Caveman style
    One thing your missing. Over 80% of american's are white, and there has not been a white american heavyweight champion since Rocky Marciano. although noone likes to admit it, race still makes a difference in the usa. (see Gerry Cooney)

    Even with his predicitble style, had Klitschko been born and raised in Youngstown, Ohio, he would be a mainstream celeberty like ODHL.
    Unfortuantly race plays a unspoken factor,your right.Joe Mesi anyone?But are you sure about that 80% ?He-they would get a huge push but I just don't see Wlads style translating to massive following and def dont think he reaches Oscar numbers.Styles not only make fights,they make fans.

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    Default Re: If the Klitschkos were American, would they get more praise/respect?

    I would not respect them more just for being AmericanOf course America would support them more though.

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