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    Default Re: 30 Year Old Lennox Lewis v 30 Year Old Larry Holmes.Who Wins

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    So Brunos jab gave Lewis trouble, Lennox still knocked him the fuck out, and still won v Mercer. Oh so u thought it was a lucky punch? Well it must have been cos u know all..... Lucky punch my ass. You are looking at Holmes thru rose glasses my friend, Lewis was as dominant at heavyweight as Holmes was, but in a much stronger era. Just match up their opponents, Lewis's are a mile better than Holmes. Guys who could match Holmes for size and similiar skill gave him trouble eg Norton and Witherspoon. If Tim Witherspoon and Ken Norton could push a prime Holmes to a close decision i daresay Lewis could do as well if not better.

    How is the chess going?
    I don't know why your acting, so aggressively. I never said i know it all and i never said my opinion is right. No one can ever be right in mythical match ups, i just think Larry Holmes's jab would be the key to beating Lennox Lewis. Because he struggled against fighters with decent jabs.

    And yes i do think the punch against Frank Bruno, was lucky. He was up until that point getting totally thrown off by Frank Bruno's jab, and he got trapped in the corner, and swung a wild left hook out of desperation. Which saved the fight for him to his credit, but that showed he could be beaten by fighters with decent jabs, and this was also evident in the Ray Mercer fight aswell.

    Im sorry but i think Larry Holmes, pretty much does everything better than Lennox Lewis except for power.

    Larry Holmes beat Ken Norton more convincingly than Muhammad Ali ever did, with a torn bicep. Which actually makes Larry Holmes look better.

    As for Tim Witherspoon he was almost exactly like Ken Norton, in his prime. A terrific fighter who let himself go, but again he had that crab like style, to bother Larry Holmes's boxing just like Ken Norton.

    I don't see these two fights, as evidence that Lennox Lewis would bother Larry Holmes IMO.

    Lastly you said Lennox Lewis beat much better opposition ? im not sure about that. But im too tired to compare there records at the moment, but maybe you can pull the stats out for me, because im far too tired.

    To say Larry nwould win is one thing but to say Lewis would not even bother Larry is another...You talk out of your ass sometimes.....

    Thats why people on the forums get aggressive with you and when you can't come up with a good arguement you want to go to paper stats...

    As for opp they beat

    Holmes opp he won against had a combined 1270-379 w/l ratio

    Lewis had 1064/229 w/l ratio

    Larry accomplished this with 69 wins

    Lennox with 41 wins
    Why don't you read my previous post, i said i think Larry Holmes would win by 4 points. I never said Lennox Lewis wouldn't bother Larry Holmes, don't put words into my mouth. I said i think he would win comfortable decision, meaning points wise which is why i said by 4 points.

    I never said he would beat Lennox Lewis from pillar to post for 12 rounds, without ever having problems.

    And where have i brought out stats in this thread ? infact i don't actually use stats that often. I think i've gave very good argument why i think Larry Holmes would win. And are you honestly telling me, i got to paper stats when i can't debate something. Are you kidding me ? i thought i've always been a pretty decent debater. And i debate on many different era's and fighters, and i've done it without stats.

    No comment's on any of my post's in this thread, should be replied to in an aggressive manner. All i've done is state my opinion, while backing it up with some good arguments.

    I don't think Lennox Lewis would be able to deal with Larry Holmes's jab, sorry but i don't. And i think he would beat Lennox Lewis comfortably on points, it wouldn't be easy but there's no doubt in my mind. Larry Holmes would be the clear winner.

    Lastly people can get as annoyed at my post, as they want. I don't really care i've said nothing wrong, and an opinion shouldn't make anyone annoyed unless its a ridiculous one. But my opinion isn't ridiculous and its an opinion backed up with a good case.

    Doesn't mean its right doesn't mean its wrong, as i said to Eagle no one can ever be right discussing mythical match ups.
    Last edited by ICB; 09-06-2009 at 09:39 PM.

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