James Toney is 217 pounds!

[Nameless]

[quote=Althugz;784702]

Steroids will not turn you into Ivan fucking Drago. You are just putting in more of the hormones that are naturally in your body in the first place - Some people have naturally higher hormone levels than others...I guess they should be banned for "putting peoples lives at risk" - Your arguement is flawed in a big way and you are labelling innocent people murderers.

Hummm... I completely disagree here; Steroids can turn you into IVan Fuckin' Drago, I've seen the change with my own eyes and I was staggered; A friend of mine now is manager of a Pro-Gym in Montreal. Now he's completely natural to say so, no steroids or nothing, course he's build like a wall but it looks quite human to say so. Still, before that run, a couple of years ago, he got interested into steroids and make something like 2 cycles with a stuff he injected himself called "DK" or something like that.
Well, in one year, he went from skinny like me to a real monster without training as hard as he does today. He's still big today but REALLY, nothing compared to that stuff he took. We talked a few times about that and he still agrees that steroids can shape you into a monster... with every conseqwuences that can go along with it in the long time of you persist to take such substance for too long.

[El Kabong]

Too little too late I am afraid. James Toney is older, he's slower, and eventually he's going to have to fight a "somebody" in the division again if he is to continue trying to be a champion.

Preme, I've never seen anyone drunk to the point where they slur their posts. Have a good night did we?

[Althugz]

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Steroids will not turn you into Ivan fucking Drago. You are just putting in more of the hormones that are naturally in your body in the first place - Some people have naturally higher hormone levels than others...I guess they should be banned for "putting peoples lives at risk" - Your arguement is flawed in a big way and you are labelling innocent people murderers.

Hummm... I completely disagree here; Steroids can turn you into IVan Fuckin' Drago, I've seen the change with my own eyes and I was staggered; A friend of mine now is manager of a Pro-Gym in Montreal. Now he's completely natural to say so, no steroids or nothing, course he's build like a wall but it looks quite human to say so. Still, before that run, a couple of years ago, he got interested into steroids and make something like 2 cycles with a stuff he injected himself called "DK" or something like that.
Well, in one year, he went from skinny like me to a real monster without training as hard as he does today. He's still big today but REALLY, nothing compared to that stuff he took. We talked a few times about that and he still agrees that steroids can shape you into a monster... with every conseqwuences that can go along with it in the long time of you persist to take such substance for too long.

I'm sorry my man but you don't know the first thing about training if you think you can take steroids or any form of chemical enhancement and work "less" hard to progress.

The whole point of steroids, if educated people do them correctly, is that they allow you to surpass the point where your genetics would otherwise impose a limit.

So for example - (and it's not this simple but to put it into Laymans terms so that you can understand) - John benches 100kg and has been stuck at that plateau for 3 months with no size gains or strength gains and he practices perfect nutrition. He has obviously reached his genetic potential.

He takes steroids and this ends up allowing him to bench 120kg - Hence, more stimulation of muscle fibres and more intense breakdown of them too. This allows John to grow beyond his genetic capacity.

So your friend who took "DK" (donkey kong? wtf? Not even a steroid) and got massive without training as hard has just defied human nature. So there are really 3 outcomes - either you're bullshitting, he's bullshitting or he has the most amazing genetics known to man. The truth usually sits somewhere in the middle (he's bullshitting)

Again, I'd urge you to research for yourself and make up your own mind. One thing I will say is that some people DO respond better to chemical enhancement than others but you're not going to surpass your genetic potential by training LESS intensely. The whole point is that they allow you to train MORE intensely.

Those ethopians as well should all be banned from endurance events dam it...damn cheaters have more slow twitch muscle fibres and higher hematocrit than other people - Ban them!! We need a level playing field!!

[Spicoli]

You go greybeard .Too bad he cannot shed some of those years.Scary thing is he has 24 hours and a few Casino buffets to walk past until the bell rings

[Gandalf]

Actually, is this card being televised anywhere? I am curious to see how he looks. Or is this another Batchelder type affair?

[Spicoli]

Actually, is this card being televised anywhere? I am curious to see how he looks. Or is this another Batchelder type affair?

Not sure if Showtime will be airing it on the Ward undercard,considering he's fighting one of the bus boys.

[SweetPea]

Actually, is this card being televised anywhere? I am curious to see how he looks. Or is this another Batchelder type affair?

Not sure if Showtime will be airing it on the Ward undercard,considering he's fighting one of the bus boys.

The Toney fight is not on TV. Showtime will show the Kessler fight on tape-delay and then the Ward fight live.

[amat]

Proof that the recession is hitting everyone. Buffets and Butterfingers aren't as inexpensive as they once were.

[Spicoli]

Actually, is this card being televised anywhere? I am curious to see how he looks. Or is this another Batchelder type affair?

Not sure if Showtime will be airing it on the Ward undercard,considering he's fighting one of the bus boys.

The Toney fight is not on TV. Showtime will show the Kessler fight on tape-delay and then the Ward fight live.

Good ol prep double header for the tournament.Thanks.Never a fan of tape delay,can never avoid results but good to see Kess in action.

Early request :SPOILER ALERTS PLEASE