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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    honestly, fuck james toney, twice he has been done for taking roids. Now i never liked james toney, he is a mouthy prick who has never been able to back it up. I read the book "Dark trade" an absolute must read for an boxing fan, if you have not read this book you HAVE TOO! i, for a very limited period of time seen toney in a different way after this book. I felt like i understood a certain part of him, and i think anyone who has read it will understand what i am saying...

    but the cunt should never ever be licenced to box again... life is life man, its out right 100% a total fucking cunt, fact. You do what you do to make the most of it, bend the rules if you have too...

    Toney didn't bent the rules he out right snapped them, any other sport taking drugs gives you an edge, in boxing you can lay some motherucker to rest, it is that simple.

    when you go on the gear, your not giving your sefl an advantagem your risking some motherfuckers life in boxing, u can end this guy... you do it once and get caught you should never be permited to fight again, this prick was caught fucking twice man... i'm all for doing what you gotta do to get the fuck ahead in anything, and whatevere my problem is with toney, no matter what i think about it; how the cunt risked peoples healh by taking roids, i dont really blame him u do what u gotta do... vut the fact he still is able to fight is a discarce man - i think i got to the point i was traying to make? lol am a lil bit drubk
    umm the roids test in the Ruiz fight were medicated to heal some tearing he had , and never backing it up? McCallum, McClellan, Jirov, Holyfield, etc.

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    honestly, fuck james toney, twice he has been done for taking roids. Now i never liked james toney, he is a mouthy prick who has never been able to back it up. I read the book "Dark trade" an absolute must read for an boxing fan, if you have not read this book you HAVE TOO! i, for a very limited period of time seen toney in a different way after this book. I felt like i understood a certain part of him, and i think anyone who has read it will understand what i am saying...

    but the cunt should never ever be licenced to box again... life is life man, its out right 100% a total fucking cunt, fact. You do what you do to make the most of it, bend the rules if you have too...

    Toney didn't bent the rules he out right snapped them, any other sport taking drugs gives you an edge, in boxing you can lay some motherucker to rest, it is that simple.

    when you go on the gear, your not giving your sefl an advantagem your risking some motherfuckers life in boxing, u can end this guy... you do it once and get caught you should never be permited to fight again, this prick was caught fucking twice man... i'm all for doing what you gotta do to get the fuck ahead in anything, and whatevere my problem is with toney, no matter what i think about it; how the cunt risked peoples healh by taking roids, i dont really blame him u do what u gotta do... vut the fact he still is able to fight is a discarce man - i think i got to the point i was traying to make? lol am a lil bit drubk
    umm the roids test in the Ruiz fight were medicated to heal some tearing he had , and never backing it up? McCallum, McClellan, Jirov, Holyfield, etc.

    My opp as well mate...Never been able to back it up? He is an ATG who has won world titles in 4 weight divisions...That doesnt happen by accident

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    honestly, fuck james toney, twice he has been done for taking roids. Now i never liked james toney, he is a mouthy prick who has never been able to back it up. I read the book "Dark trade" an absolute must read for an boxing fan, if you have not read this book you HAVE TOO! i, for a very limited period of time seen toney in a different way after this book. I felt like i understood a certain part of him, and i think anyone who has read it will understand what i am saying...

    but the cunt should never ever be licenced to box again... life is life man, its out right 100% a total fucking cunt, fact. You do what you do to make the most of it, bend the rules if you have too...

    Toney didn't bent the rules he out right snapped them, any other sport taking drugs gives you an edge, in boxing you can lay some motherucker to rest, it is that simple.

    when you go on the gear, your not giving your sefl an advantagem your risking some motherfuckers life in boxing, u can end this guy... you do it once and get caught you should never be permited to fight again, this prick was caught fucking twice man... i'm all for doing what you gotta do to get the fuck ahead in anything, and whatevere my problem is with toney, no matter what i think about it; how the cunt risked peoples healh by taking roids, i dont really blame him u do what u gotta do... vut the fact he still is able to fight is a discarce man - i think i got to the point i was traying to make? lol am a lil bit drubk
    umm the roids test in the Ruiz fight were medicated to heal some tearing he had , and never backing it up? McCallum, McClellan, Jirov, Holyfield, etc.

    My opp as well mate...Never been able to back it up? He is an ATG who has won world titles in 4 weight divisions...That doesnt happen by accident
    that part didn't come out right didn't mean to say it that way as if he wasnt great, i was just a tiny bit drunk when i wrote that lol (think it took me about an hour to type it lol)

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    haha why now? Frustrating.

    Oh well I tend to think so what he's still shot but I guess this will end the debate to some extent, if he still looks poor he's obviously shot period.

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Cmon James!!!! Good on him dropping all that weight, like to see him retire on top

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Cmon James!!!! Good on him dropping all that weight, like to see him retire on top
    Yeah, it's a welcome surprise to see him come in so light. Ouma is right too in asking "why now?". He should have been in this shape against Rahman the first time out.

    Ah well, I just hope he looks sharp. Shame we can't get to see this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    He is an ATG who has won world titles in 4 weight divisions...That doesnt happen by accident


    While I do 100% totally despise him...he was an amazing fighter & I'm sure still has the potential to be one still...but he needs to be disciplined & also move about 30lbs offa his ass cheeks & gut.


    I'd love to see him get back to 175lbs & face Roy or Hopkins...or even take it back to cruiser where both of dem yunginz'd be able to make that match.



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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    umm the roids test in the Ruiz fight were medicated to heal some tearing he had , and never backing it up? McCallum, McClellan, Jirov, Holyfield, etc.
    Toney didnt fight McClellan

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    James certainly looks in a hell of a lot better shape than he has been

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DJ33iTn5CU

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    James certainly looks in a hell of a lot better shape than he has been

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DJ33iTn5CU
    His head has shrunk so much I thought it was a joke and one of his old 168 pound interviews for a second lol
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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    He does look much better than in recent years. He also sounded pretty good in that interview too.

    I really hope Toney puts on a good showing, he is due one. I don't know what happened to Toney between the second Rahman fight and the Oquendo one. Toney seemed in a great place before fighting Rahman, but slipped again with Oquendo. He seems to be back in that pre Rahman mindset and seems in even better condition now.

    If he doesn't look good in this then he must retire. There can be no excuses after making the effort to whittle down a few pounds.

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    He will put on a good performance at this weight, I hope.
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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    honestly, fuck james toney, twice he has been done for taking roids. Now i never liked james toney, he is a mouthy prick who has never been able to back it up. I read the book "Dark trade" an absolute must read for an boxing fan, if you have not read this book you HAVE TOO! i, for a very limited period of time seen toney in a different way after this book. I felt like i understood a certain part of him, and i think anyone who has read it will understand what i am saying...

    but the cunt should never ever be licenced to box again... life is life man, its out right 100% a total fucking cunt, fact. You do what you do to make the most of it, bend the rules if you have too...

    Toney didn't bent the rules he out right snapped them, any other sport taking drugs gives you an edge, in boxing you can lay some motherucker to rest, it is that simple.

    when you go on the gear, your not giving your sefl an advantagem your risking some motherfuckers life in boxing, u can end this guy... you do it once and get caught you should never be permited to fight again, this prick was caught fucking twice man... i'm all for doing what you gotta do to get the fuck ahead in anything, and whatevere my problem is with toney, no matter what i think about it; how the cunt risked peoples healh by taking roids, i dont really blame him u do what u gotta do... vut the fact he still is able to fight is a discarce man - i think i got to the point i was traying to make? lol am a lil bit drubk
    umm the roids test in the Ruiz fight were medicated to heal some tearing he had
    The injury he had in the run up to that camp was a tear of his bicep tendon... a very common injury for steroid takers. Connective tissue can't keep up with the muscles.

    I guess it's a question of what came first the Egg or the Chicken (or the steroids or the injury ) and my money is on the juice.

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Toney looked good. My fight report will be up here in a day or two, you can see the photos of his "new" body.

    Greer was a bit of a schlub. He was wearing plain ol' gym shorts, not boxing trunks and the guy didn't eve have a cup on.

    Toney's legs looked good he was quick on his feet, but I don't know if he could hang with anyone in the top ten now. He plans on fighting again next month.

    At the post fight press conf. Goosen mentioned a possible HW tourny in the WBC for the top contenders and Toney said his goal right now is to win that.

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    Default Re: James Toney is 217 pounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by mikefromstu View Post
    Toney looked good. My fight report will be up here in a day or two, you can see the photos of his "new" body.

    Greer was a bit of a schlub. He was wearing plain ol' gym shorts, not boxing trunks and the guy didn't eve have a cup on.

    Toney's legs looked good he was quick on his feet, but I don't know if he could hang with anyone in the top ten now. He plans on fighting again next month.

    At the post fight press conf. Goosen mentioned a possible HW tourny in the WBC for the top contenders and Toney said his goal right now is to win that.
    Thanks for that one.looking forward to full view.

    Sounds like Toneys realizes that this is in fact 'It' for him.Would like to see him have a go as early as next month,in shape but sounds like he def needs a bigger threat.Dont know about a tournament,might take too much time.

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