I really don't see the problems with any of global's posts, it seemed a fairly logical thing to say, & rather than actually discussing his argument (which could have been done), people have started just name-calling & doing some kind of gang 'I'll leave this one to you bro' thing. If you disagree with him, debate with him. I mean how the hell did we end up with paedophiles in this thread? (obviously as a subject, not suggesting any of you like fondling minors)

Anyway on the subject, I'm hoping that Kirkland gets the most lenient sentence, he did something stupid, but the facts of how he did it lead me to believe he's just an idiot rather than a danger to a society (yes I know those are often the same thing).