Pondering 2 Outcomes Of the Cotto Vs Pac Fight

[Majesty]

Cotto is going to get dominated I'm sorry to say.

The second part is whats gonna happen.

The way Cotto has looked lately gives all the signs that Pacquiao is gonna dominate him. Pacquiao is faster, hits hard, and punches in combination, the way Cotto dealt with Clottey is a tell sign that mentally he is still a fighter searching for a passion. Clottey had him looking discouraged in there like he was remembering Margarito all over again, and it was only after Clottey took his foot off the gas Cotto could do something and even then was content with single shotting and doing just enough to take the rounds. He is looking for a break where he can feel confident again. Pacquiao won't give him that much of a break, if Cotto starts feeling discouraged so soon Pacquiao is gonna pour it on him and massacre him. Cotto is mentally not the same since that Margarito fight. Cotto is going downhill mentally and he can't afford it against Pacquiao. He knows he can be beat, and he knows he can be outlasted, that Margarito handwraps story and stuff like that(that he used it in the Cotto fight even though that was never proven) only hurts a fighter like Cotto. Just like when people told Hatton the only reason Mayweather beat him was because he was 147, people telling Cotto the only reason Margarito beat him was because he probably used handwraps, it gives a fighter a false sense of security. Then Cotto starts breaking down in the same way in the Clottey fight and there is no excuse, it can mentally scar a fighter to get faked into believing their first loss they werent vulnerable then realizing its true. Pacquiao is NOT the kind of fighter he should be fighting right now.

[Taeth]

I've been saying I think Pacquiao will dominate because Cotto has faced two guys with great speed in Mosley and Judah, but MOsley likely due to his power and beard never has been much of a mover, his physical attributes are such that he doesn't need to do anything but stand there and trade or move back a bit and load up on hooks, and Judah IMO thinks his speed is all important, and that he has the reflexes to dodge oncoming punches, but because he doesn't move his feet, elite opponents figure him out in a round or two, and once they have the timing and range they land the right cross and body punches at will on him, and nothing comes back.

The one thing that worries me for Pacquiao is that Cotto adapts, he doesn't come in with a specific gameplan, he fights each opponent based on what they are bringing to the table. If he makes a mid fight shift in styles that allows him to find PAcquiao then I can't see Pacquiao beating him. Cotto hits a lot harder than Marquez and he goes to the body so well, and if he finds his range then Manny doesn't have the defensive skills to defend himself, and if they get into a shootout Cotto will win for sure, but I can't see this happening just because you can't hit what you can't catch and Manny isn't going to need great defensive skills if he can maintain enough distance, and clinch in close.

The problem I always see for Manny is that he doesn't adapt well, I think he is getting better as he is acquiring better overall skills, but guys like Calzaghe, Hopkins, Marquez, Cotto, Kessler, Mayweather, Whitaker, prime RJJ etc can do so many different thinks in the ring that they can change up their style. Manny, I haven't seen that when he hits a road block even though he has improved his boxing skills, he doesn't seem to make the changes necessary to make himself more effective, sort of along the lines of Jermain Taylor, Judah, Pavlik, Mosley, etc. if they don't come in with a really good game plan that is effective all night against the wrong opponent they are in trouble. Mosley and Pacquiao at least have the speed to compensate a little bit, but they still don't adapt the same way.

[jamiebhoy]

I've been saying I think Pacquiao will dominate because Cotto has faced two guys with great speed in Mosley and Judah, but MOsley likely due to his power and beard never has been much of a mover, his physical attributes are such that he doesn't need to do anything but stand there and trade or move back a bit and load up on hooks, and Judah IMO thinks his speed is all important, and that he has the reflexes to dodge oncoming punches, but because he doesn't move his feet, elite opponents figure him out in a round or two, and once they have the timing and range they land the right cross and body punches at will on him, and nothing comes back.

The one thing that worries me for Pacquiao is that Cotto adapts, he doesn't come in with a specific gameplan, he fights each opponent based on what they are bringing to the table. If he makes a mid fight shift in styles that allows him to find PAcquiao then I can't see Pacquiao beating him. Cotto hits a lot harder than Marquez and he goes to the body so well, and if he finds his range then Manny doesn't have the defensive skills to defend himself, and if they get into a shootout Cotto will win for sure, but I can't see this happening just because you can't hit what you can't catch and Manny isn't going to need great defensive skills if he can maintain enough distance, and clinch in close.

The problem I always see for Manny is that he doesn't adapt well, I think he is getting better as he is acquiring better overall skills, but guys like Calzaghe, Hopkins, Marquez, Cotto, Kessler, Mayweather, Whitaker, prime RJJ etc can do so many different thinks in the ring that they can change up their style. Manny, I haven't seen that when he hits a road block even though he has improved his boxing skills, he doesn't seem to make the changes necessary to make himself more effective, sort of along the lines of Jermain Taylor, Judah, Pavlik, Mosley, etc. if they don't come in with a really good game plan that is effective all night against the wrong opponent they are in trouble. Mosley and Pacquiao at least have the speed to compensate a little bit, but they still don't adapt the same way.

I agree with Manny not being very diverse. He seems to just do what he does best and thinks it will work every time. I don't think he can rest on his laurels for this fight, Cotto is a real challenge. The last two fights Manny had didn't tell us anything and he wasn't even slightly tested ( I know some will say because he did his job too well which is also true)

Problem for me is cuts, Cotto will be catching some pretty fast shots that may or may not hurt him but will damage him roud the eyes.

If you get to round 5 with Manny you have a serious shot, he seems to run out of ideas and takes a few rounds to start listening to suggestions from the corner, it's at this point when he gets a little frustrated that Cotto needs to take it to him. He may have speed but Pac also has balls and will try and mix it up with you to show he's just as tough.

I remember one of the commentators for a Pac fight point out that he was showing good movement in the middle rounds of a fight and had great energy , Manny Steward said yeah that's nice but maybe he should throw some punches with it.

I hope Cotto takes him to deep water and really tests him, I for one like them both, but want to see how Pacman handles being put on his arse and comes back.

I still stick with saying that if he gets beaten then Pac retires.

head = Pac
heart = Cotto

[leftylee]

This aint 50/50. Pacquiao smashes Cotto.

[CFH]

This aint 50/50. Pacquiao smashes Cotto.

I don't think it's that much of a foregone conclusion. While I do think Pacquaio will win, this will be (on paper at least) his most difficult fight and Cotto should not be written off entirely. I *think* Pac will stop Cotto, but I really have no idea and I wouldn't be all that surprised to see it go the other way.

[lordforever]

this might be the fight of the year... cotto began his training one month early than manny... but I believe manny will win a KO in the later rounds...

[yvonne]

There's no doubt that this fight will be a cracker.It has the ingrediants to be something special,soo much soo i think whatever the outcome may be there'll be a rematch,its that kind of fight.I think Manny will have the edge but just slightly,Manny has more lateral movement and it very very slick at mid range.Manny will be good at working on Cotto's lower body,but Cotto will be great at turning on Manny and countering with on the ropes.Its a hard one to judge.Its mouth watering just thinking about the outcome.

I cant wait

[yvonne]

For the betting folks out there from the uk,here are the standing odds from Coral Bookmakers on this fight:

Manny to win-1/2(favourite)

Cotto to win-6/4