Tyson Fury/ McDermott fight

[Dark Lord Al]

....you can see that Fury is a fraud but not David Haye

David Haye is an undisputed lineal Cruiserweight champion, & he's yet to call himself the best HW in the world unlike Fury. I wish you & Lefty would stop completely disregard the facts in your quest to praise Haye/Klitschkos or to degrade Haye/Klitschkos.

When I degrade the biitch that is Wladimir Klitchsko I have good reason too. His awful slappy style with that jab, the rare use of the right hand and how boring his fights are. I can back that up. It's all evident in his last 10 fights.

Lyle just mouths off how David Haye is a fraud because he got beat by Carl Thompson. 1 fight. Funny thing is he's the only person that actually holds that loss against Haye. He had like 11 fights and gassed out.

Yes but the point is Lefty , that Wlad's style got him to the championship ,
Lyles point is that Haye hasnt beaten anyone in the HW division yet.
Im sure if Haye goes on to KO Wlad and Vitali then Lyle will have to say he was wrong.
But up to now Haye hasnt even been in with a HW puncher , let alone a World champion. So lets wait and see wot happens , and try to keep the bitching to a minimum.
As for Tyson Fury , well hes got heart but in sure he would rather have Wlad's slappy powerful boring style

[El Kabong]

Skel, I am sorry you have to read these posts, I don't enjoy making them, but it is part of my JOB, my DUTY to the good posters here at Saddo's to call attention to boxers who are getting too much credit/hype. I don't doubt that David Haye has talent, I don't call into question what he did in the cruiserweight division, I just consistently point out his flaws and the FACT that only Evander Holyfield has been able to dominate both the cruiserweight and heavyweight divisions. Sure David Haye may be exciting as hell as a fighter, but you don't win fights because you're exciting or because you love to talk, you win fights in the ring and it's bad for boxing when some loudmouth touts himself as the next great thing without ever having to prove it and it's not for lack of opportunities and that is what bugs me. Haye acts as if no one wants to fight him when HE is the one who is hand picking opponents, he was litterally HANDED title fights vs the Klitschko's whom he went out of the way to offend and irritate and then David Haye tucks tail when it comes time to fight....to me that is the gravest of offenses in boxing, that is the WORST thing a fighter could ever do.

Tyson Fury has an exciting style lefty....what did it get him? James Toney still talks a bunch of shit...is he going to dominate the division? Maybe Tyson Fury needs to talk more crap, maybe Tyson Fury needs to have Steve Bunce shell out endless propaganda for him, maybe then he could be on par with Haye

[Tysonbruno]

I can see how Fury won the fight McDermott went for a headbutt at the end of round 2 he spat the gumshield out twice he held in a obvious way where even the ref said well pull your arms out then and he turned his back twice in round 12. Also Fury threw over 100 more punches than McDermott so perhaps looked busier to the ref and yes McDermott got some big shots off but he still fought in that mardy negative way and the corner having to gee him up all the time he should retire if you ask me once he gets in a competetive fight he just don't want to be their. But i did think 98-92 was wide

[johnmaff36]

Can someone give me a quick run down?

Got to say Greg one of the worst decisions of the year, I had Mcdermott winning easily by 4 rounds, but when I heard the Refs scorecard of 98-92 for Fury, absolutly disgusting, Mcdermott was landing all the big shots and was smothering Furys only real threat his jab and most of the time was out jabiing the bigger man, im speechless mate.


Fury stuck in there but Mcdermott landed all the big shots landed more shots and had the better percentage, robbery big time imo.
Decent scrap though, this was an English title fight why the hell they relying on one ref to score the fight, that rule needs to be changed.

Agree with you mate. Absolute disgrace. Not the first time O'Connor has been controversial. This guy actually gets paid to make these decisions. Somebody should look into this practise of hiring inept people

[HattonTheHammer]

Can someone give me a quick run down?

Got to say Greg one of the worst decisions of the year, I had Mcdermott winning easily by 4 rounds, but when I heard the Refs scorecard of 98-92 for Fury, absolutly disgusting, Mcdermott was landing all the big shots and was smothering Furys only real threat his jab and most of the time was out jabiing the bigger man, im speechless mate.


Fury stuck in there but Mcdermott landed all the big shots landed more shots and had the better percentage, robbery big time imo.
Decent scrap though, this was an English title fight why the hell they relying on one ref to score the fight, that rule needs to be changed.

Agree with you mate. Absolute disgrace. Not the first time O'Connor has been controversial. This guy actually gets paid to make these decisions. Somebody should look into this practise of hiring inept people

worst decision seen in many a year

people make decisions even those in the know how. But something as blatant as this is completely unnaceptable and if an inquest into this isnt heard then justice will never be done.

Havent spoken to a single person who didnt give at least 7 of the 10 rounds to mcdermott, fury got shown up and exposed badly and it was clear for all to see he had been chucked in at the 3rd/4th tier of heavyweight boxing far too early!!

[ElTerribleMorales]

....David might not have said word for word "I'm the best heavyweight in the world" but he did say he was going to have an easy time going through everyone in the division, ergo Haye did IMPLY he's the best heavyweight in the world and he has also tried to build up the likes of Monte Barrett to support his claim.

Back to Tye Fields.....I mean Tyson Fury....yeah he does suck quite a bit and I agree with Lefty. I was initially in shock when I saw that Lefty does have the ability to perceive who is and isn't a fraud...but it just made me question why has he never been able to do that with David Haye who obviously loves to talk more than fight.

You actually thing Tyson Fury Fraud and David Haye have something in common ? They couldn't be further apart.

I agree with Skel. Your just obsessive of this man named David Haye. I honestly don't know what it is with him that makes you go on and on about him.

....you can see that Fury is a fraud but not David Haye

David Haye is an undisputed lineal Cruiserweight champion, & he's yet to call himself the best HW in the world unlike Fury. I wish you & Lefty would stop completely disregard the facts in your quest to praise Haye/Klitschkos or to degrade Haye/Klitschkos.

When I degrade the biitch that is Wladimir Klitchsko I have good reason too. His awful slappy style with that jab, the rare use of the right hand and how boring his fights are. I can back that up. It's all evident in his last 10 fights.

Lyle just mouths off how David Haye is a fraud because he got beat by Carl Thompson. 1 fight. Funny thing is he's the only person that actually holds that loss against Haye. He had like 11 fights and gassed out.

well in all reality Lyle's not the only one obsessing, it's pretty even between the two of you, and yea Wlad is a bit safety first but well he does fight more than once a year unlike another fighter i know that goes by the name of Haye, and yet Wlad fights the TOP guys in the division, and more times than not, he knocks them out, don't see how anyone can really bash the guy

[El Kabong]

Thank you! All I have to say is Wlad doesn't spend all day hyping himself up, his career has been made in the ring unlike David Haye's who's career has been moved along by his big mouth and Steve Bunce's big mouthed idiotic rantings.

[killersheep]

Wlad is the Saddoboxing Champ and that's all that matters.

As for Fury/McDermott, the biggest disgrace in my mind is a title is on the line and it is up to one ref to determine the outcome? That is ridiculous, the BBB of C needs to step in here and amend some rules.

[leftylee]

Come November I'll be having the last laugh. Don't you worry Lyle.

I'm sorry David Haye aint American. I know American heavyweights are pussys and frauds and you guys are crying out for a decent one. But Haye is British so let the hating begin

[killersheep]

Come November I'll be having the last laugh. Don't you worry Lyle.

I'm sorry David Haye aint American. I know American heavyweights are pussys and frauds and you guys are crying out for a decent one. But Haye is British so let the hating begin

American Heavyweight Arreola hasn't backed out of a Klitschko fight yet, so in my book that still one ups Haye.

[leftylee]

Come November I'll be having the last laugh. Don't you worry Lyle.

I'm sorry David Haye aint American. I know American heavyweights are pussys and frauds and you guys are crying out for a decent one. But Haye is British so let the hating begin

American Heavyweight Arreola hasn't backed out of a Klitschko fight yet, so in my book that still one ups Haye.

Can't do shiit about an injury when he was going to face Wlad.

Did Team Bitchsko put in the contact a rematch, then a fight with the other brother to Arreola ? No they didn't. Cuz Arreola is a walkover for them. He's just a fat man who throws a good punch. But that won't get you far. And Vitali Bitchsko knows it. Haye has everything Arreola has yet more. He's more of a threat so they want him tied up for rematches. It's clever what Team Bitchsko tried to do with Haye. Yet also cowardly, very cowardly. Haye aint a slave, he's his own promoter. And rightfully so he told Vitali Bitchsko to shove the damn fight up his ass.

[kingfrnk]

to be honest nobody gives a damn about the HW division anyways. if Haye were to become HW champ ( which he NEVER WILL ) it still wouldnt mean shit. the better fights are in the lower weight classes where there are better fighters and match-ups.

[leftylee]

to be honest nobody gives a damn about the HW division anyways. if Haye were to become HW champ ( which he NEVER WILL ) it still wouldnt mean shit. the better fights are in the lower weight classes where there are better fighters and match-ups.

Just watch. This time next year Haye will be undisputed Heavyweight champion of the world.

[killersheep]

Come November I'll be having the last laugh. Don't you worry Lyle.

I'm sorry David Haye aint American. I know American heavyweights are pussys and frauds and you guys are crying out for a decent one. But Haye is British so let the hating begin

American Heavyweight Arreola hasn't backed out of a Klitschko fight yet, so in my book that still one ups Haye.

Can't do shiit about an injury when he was going to face Wlad.

Did Team Bitchsko put in the contact a rematch, then a fight with the other brother to Arreola ? No they didn't. Cuz Arreola is a walkover for them. He's just a fat man who throws a good punch. But that won't get you far. And Vitali Bitchsko knows it. Haye has everything Arreola has yet more. He's more of a threat so they want him tied up for rematches. It's clever what Team Bitchsko tried to do with Haye. Yet also cowardly, very cowardly. Haye aint a slave, he's his own promoter. And rightfully so he told Vitali Bitchsko to shove the damn fight up his ass.

Fighting Wlad, a rematch and then his brother are you kidding me? There is noone else in the heavyweight division that will bring Haye more money than that.

Is it less cowardly to call out a champ then agree to his terms and then fake an injury to get out of it? How about fighting a "title holder" who got out his last fight by fabricating a story about his opponent having herpes.

[CFH]

to be honest nobody gives a damn about the HW division anyways. if Haye were to become HW champ ( which he NEVER WILL ) it still wouldnt mean shit. the better fights are in the lower weight classes where there are better fighters and match-ups.

Depends what you mean by champ, he'll beat Valuev IMO. Either of the Klitschko's and possibly even Arreola (I would love to see that fight) will beat him though.