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    Default Froch vs Dirrell

    Who wins this? thing i like about Froch he likes a tough fight he had a tough fight with Paschall for WBC Super Middleweight title who went on to become WBC light heavyweight champ.Then he fought number 1 contender Jermain Taylor in the states in his first defence and now has signed up for this super 6 tournamant Would Calzaghe have done this NO!! Im thinking Froch by late stoppage

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    If Jermain Taylor can box Froch and have big success then I think Dirrell will make him look silly. I don't think has all that great of a chin but I think he's got better power than Taylor, he definently has better handspeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    If Jermain Taylor can box Froch and have big success then I think Dirrell will make him look silly. I don't think has all that great of a chin but I think he's got better power than Taylor, he definently has better handspeed.

    Carl is very much a fighter that climatises to the fight as it progresses.

    Against pascal he had to completely rethink his strategy as jean was out working him, against taylor he was getting beaten to the punch by a far heavier puncher and had to use all his boxing knowledge to outwork jermain.

    A certain Mr Calzaghe was also well known for adapting to certain styles as a fight went on. I just dont see how dirrell can win this unless he can use that lightening quick hand speed to get in and out whenever possible and force carl to chase the fight and take punches on the counter.

    Froch by a unanimous decision over a bruised and battered dirrell
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    I can't lie, I like Froch. I didn't used to like Froch, but he grew on me after he came to the US to fight Taylor. And other than Kessler, with those two wins, he may have the best wins over world class competition in the tournament. Other than Kessler, AA has the best resume, but his biggest wins - Ghevor and Miranda - may fall short of JT and Pascal (Most people say he lost the first fight with Miranda and he only beat Miranda after Pavlik put him to sleep). All that said, it is easy to see that Froch's skill level and his athletic ability have to be at the bottom of the pile. Then again, when you are at such a high level in boxing like in this tournament, your mental fortitude and your ability to adjust become as important as your natural talent. Froch has shown he has a ton of what pundits refer to as intangibles. Whatever his natural abilities are, Dirrell hasn't been in the ring with someone on Froch's level or with Froch's experience and with Froch's guts and heart.

    I just think Dirrell and his team saw how to beat Froch after the JT fight him and Dirrell will do a better job of sticking to that plan. I saw Dirrell being interviewed at the Ward fight and you could infer from his words that he respected Kessler and understood he was the man to beat in the tournament. That makes me think he is a thinking boxer who will implement the game plan to beat Froch. I could easily be wrong.

    What are the betting odds in this fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I can't lie, I like Froch. I didn't used to like Froch, but he grew on me after he came to the US to fight Taylor. And other than Kessler, with those two wins, he may have the best wins over world class competition in the tournament. Other than Kessler, AA has the best resume, but his biggest wins - Ghevor and Miranda - may fall short of JT and Pascal (Most people say he lost the first fight with Miranda and he only beat Miranda after Pavlik put him to sleep). All that said, it is easy to see that Froch's skill level and his athletic ability have to be at the bottom of the pile. Then again, when you are at such a high level in boxing like in this tournament, your mental fortitude and your ability to adjust become as important as your natural talent. Froch has shown he has a ton of what pundits refer to as intangibles. Whatever his natural abilities are, Dirrell hasn't been in the ring with someone on Froch's level or with Froch's experience and with Froch's guts and heart.

    I just think Dirrell and his team saw how to beat Froch after he saw JT fight him and he'll do a better job of sticking to that plan. I saw Dirrell being interviewed at the Ward fight and you could infer from his words that he respected Kessler and understood he was the man to beat in the tournament. That makes me think he is a thinking boxer who will stick to the game plan to beat Froch. I could easily be wrong.

    What are the betting odds in this fight?
    joe calzaghe never was the hardest hitting puncher nor did he have the lightening quick hand speed or was ultra fast on his feet.

    boxing smarts however he had in abundance and he knew how to beat guys that did have all those qualitys that he didnt.

    To a much lesser extent froch has also and i truly believe he will have learnt a lot from those 1st 6rounds with taylor and can move on from it. I believe carl is the betting favourite
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    Can't stand Foch, but think this comes a little too soon for Dirrell. Froch won't get discouraged if he looks a fool early, and there are plenty of chinks in Dirrels defense for Froch to get home regularly enough to wear him down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I can't lie, I like Froch. I didn't used to like Froch, but he grew on me after he came to the US to fight Taylor. And other than Kessler, with those two wins, he may have the best wins over world class competition in the tournament. Other than Kessler, AA has the best resume, but his biggest wins - Ghevor and Miranda - may fall short of JT and Pascal (Most people say he lost the first fight with Miranda and he only beat Miranda after Pavlik put him to sleep). All that said, it is easy to see that Froch's skill level and his athletic ability have to be at the bottom of the pile. Then again, when you are at such a high level in boxing like in this tournament, your mental fortitude and your ability to adjust become as important as your natural talent. Froch has shown he has a ton of what pundits refer to as intangibles. Whatever his natural abilities are, Dirrell hasn't been in the ring with someone on Froch's level or with Froch's experience and with Froch's guts and heart.

    I just think Dirrell and his team saw how to beat Froch after he saw JT fight him and he'll do a better job of sticking to that plan. I saw Dirrell being interviewed at the Ward fight and you could infer from his words that he respected Kessler and understood he was the man to beat in the tournament. That makes me think he is a thinking boxer who will stick to the game plan to beat Froch. I could easily be wrong.

    What are the betting odds in this fight?
    joe calzaghe never was the hardest hitting puncher nor did he have the lightening quick hand speed or was ultra fast on his feet.

    boxing smarts however he had in abundance and he knew how to beat guys that did have all those qualitys that he didnt.

    To a much lesser extent froch has also and i truly believe he will have learnt a lot from those 1st 6rounds with taylor and can move on from it. I believe carl is the betting favourite
    Calzaghe had very fast hands. Impressively so and he moved well on his feet. Froch and Calzaghe aren't in the same league in those to respects. Very few boxers had those qualities at the same level as Calzaghe.

    But, you may be right, Froch may understand better how to counteract a faster boxer now and he definitely knows how to adjust well.

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    Default Re: Froch vs Dirrell

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I can't lie, I like Froch. I didn't used to like Froch, but he grew on me after he came to the US to fight Taylor. And other than Kessler, with those two wins, he may have the best wins over world class competition in the tournament. Other than Kessler, AA has the best resume, but his biggest wins - Ghevor and Miranda - may fall short of JT and Pascal (Most people say he lost the first fight with Miranda and he only beat Miranda after Pavlik put him to sleep). All that said, it is easy to see that Froch's skill level and his athletic ability have to be at the bottom of the pile. Then again, when you are at such a high level in boxing like in this tournament, your mental fortitude and your ability to adjust become as important as your natural talent. Froch has shown he has a ton of what pundits refer to as intangibles. Whatever his natural abilities are, Dirrell hasn't been in the ring with someone on Froch's level or with Froch's experience and with Froch's guts and heart.

    I just think Dirrell and his team saw how to beat Froch after he saw JT fight him and he'll do a better job of sticking to that plan. I saw Dirrell being interviewed at the Ward fight and you could infer from his words that he respected Kessler and understood he was the man to beat in the tournament. That makes me think he is a thinking boxer who will stick to the game plan to beat Froch. I could easily be wrong.

    What are the betting odds in this fight?
    joe calzaghe never was the hardest hitting puncher nor did he have the lightening quick hand speed or was ultra fast on his feet.

    boxing smarts however he had in abundance and he knew how to beat guys that did have all those qualitys that he didnt.

    To a much lesser extent froch has also and i truly believe he will have learnt a lot from those 1st 6rounds with taylor and can move on from it. I believe carl is the betting favourite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    Who wins this? thing i like about Froch he likes a tough fight he had a tough fight with Paschall for WBC Super Middleweight title who went on to become WBC light heavyweight champ.Then he fought number 1 contender Jermain Taylor in the states in his first defence and now has signed up for this super 6 tournamant Would Calzaghe have done this NO!! Im thinking Froch by late stoppage

    I'll give you that--Froch is fighting all comers, but the thing you've got to ask yourself is: is Andre Dirrell in better shape than Jermain Taylor? If the answer is yes, then Froch loses a lopsided decision.
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    Exactly! Dirrell is bigger than JT, he's faster, he's in better shape, and he's got some wrinkles in his game that JT didn't have, ie the ability to fight either orthodox or southpaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Exactly! Dirrell is bigger than JT, he's faster, he's in better shape, and he's got some wrinkles in his game that JT didn't have, ie the ability to fight either orthodox or southpaw
    Whilst Dirrell may have some tangible advantages i.e. size and speed you cannot underestimate some facts that suggest Froch will win this bout:

    (1) Dirrell has not fough professionally outside the United States. It is an uncertain as to how well he will travel. Froch, fighting in his home town will have considerable partisan support.
    (2) Looked in depth at Dirrell's resume on boxing rec and he has not faced any boxers of the calibre of Froch who has fought Jean Pascal (Current light heavy WBC Champ) and Taylor (twice beaten B-HOP) in his past 2 fights.

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    This is going to be a close fight IMO. I'm 60% to 40% in favor of Froch. I give Froch the advantage due to his experience and power. Not to mention the fight taking place in Nottingham. I can see how and why people would back Dirrell to beat Froch. He has the style to give him fits.

    I came across this video earlier. Not sure if you guys had seen it before. Thought I'd share it.

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    Default Re: Froch vs Dirrell

    Generally, the odds are still that Froch will beat Dirrell.

    Boxing Betting: Carl Froch v Andre Dirrell : Boxing Betting : Other sports

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ote=1&p=790101

    Anyone have a change of heart about this fight?

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    Default Re: Froch vs Dirrell

    I think its an extremely tough fight for both guys. Froch showed what he's got vs both Pascal & Taylor, something Dirrell has yet to have the opportunity to do.

    Taylor laid the blue print on how to fight Froch until he ran outta gas & I expect Dirrell to execute it to perfection! I don't doubt he'll face a lot of adversity along the way but I feel Dirrell is up to the task.
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    Default Re: Froch vs Dirrell

    I've switched to Froch now as well.

    I've backed against Froch in every fight he's ever had.. so with this change of heart I fully expect Dirrell to KO him in 1. Take it to the bank.
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