Mayweather Snr accuses Pac of taking roids!!

[Althugz]

Like Ouma has said it wouldn't surprise me to learn of anybody doing it.

If you would be then I'd like to be the first to introduce you to 'professional sports'. Hi.

Thank you!

Floyd Mayweather Sr isn't as stupid as he sounds...and it wouldn't surprise me one bit either but as others have said, you can have your opinions but can't go pointing fingers without proof.

All I'll say is that it is hard jump from 105 to 140lbs of PURE muscle - If you guys can imagine 35lbs of pure muscle, it's a shocking amount. Imagine what 35lbs of chicken breasts or steaks would look like.

Couple that with the fact that Pacquaio's training schedule would never allow him to put on significant size due to the amount of calories he must be burning in training for a fight. It's just not really going to happen.

I can understand him filling out slightly since he began but not to the tune of 35lbs of extra muscle.

But hey, I may be wrong and he might be a genetic superfreak because I'd certainly never like to accuse anybody

[AdamGB]

Like Ouma has said it wouldn't surprise me to learn of anybody doing it.

If you would be then I'd like to be the first to introduce you to 'professional sports'. Hi.

Thank you!

Floyd Mayweather Sr isn't as stupid as he sounds...and it wouldn't surprise me one bit either but as others have said, you can have your opinions but can't go pointing fingers without proof.

All I'll say is that it is hard jump from 105 to 140lbs of PURE muscle - If you guys can imagine 35lbs of pure muscle, it's a shocking amount. Imagine what 35lbs of chicken breasts or steaks would look like.

Couple that with the fact that Pacquaio's training schedule would never allow him to put on significant size due to the amount of calories he must be burning in training for a fight. It's just not really going to happen.

I can understand him filling out slightly since he began but not to the tune of 35lbs of extra muscle.

But hey, I may be wrong and he might be a genetic superfreak because I'd certainly never like to accuse anybody

He probably wouldn't have had to have gained 35lb of pure muscle mind.

He's obviously but a lot of it on but some of the 'weight' he's moved up will just be from the fact that he doesn't have to dehydrate give or take about 10lb of fluids and sugars out of his body for the weigh in.

But yeah, like you said his training volume + his weight gain mean his body is definetly a very anabolic enviroment, and like you said this doesn't have to be from steroids. Though it wouldn't be surprising either.

[fan johnny]

What makes more sense for a fighter to be on Steroids?

A fighter coming from environment in the streets of Manila or a fighter who's Olympic environment is exposed to designer drugs where the competition is scored in the 1/1000 of a second.

[JazMerkin]

What makes more sense for a fighter to be on Steroids?

A fighter coming from environment in the streets of Manila or a fighter who's Olympic environment is exposed to designer drugs where the competition is scored in the 1/1000 of a second.

So Pac still lives on the streets in Manila does he?

[generalbulldog]

Sr. is a respected and an accomplished trainer in the game (despite his mouth) and tends to be in the limelight in the boxing world from training guys like Hatton, Oscar, and his son he should be a little more careful with these kind of accusations.

These accusations from a trainer of this caliber would be like Pat Riley accusing Lebron James of being on steroids or Bill Parcells accusing Tom Brady of being juiced and that their accomplishments are the result of it.

I'm no Pac fan and thinks that he got some guys at the right time, but I wouldn't stoop this low and I'm just a fight fan not an accomplished trainer with the credentials of Sr.

[fan johnny]

What makes more sense for a fighter to be on Steroids?

A fighter coming from environment in the streets of Manila or a fighter who's Olympic environment is exposed to designer drugs where the competition is scored in the 1/1000 of a second.

So Pac still lives on the streets in Manila does he?

I'll state it another way. Who is more likely to use designer drugs that are undetectable in a substance test?

Someone who grew up in a third world country, or someone nurtured to compete in the Olympics?

It is far more likely for the accuser and his family to be associated with the type of drugs mentioned, than it is for the accused.

[JazMerkin]

What makes more sense for a fighter to be on Steroids?

A fighter coming from environment in the streets of Manila or a fighter who's Olympic environment is exposed to designer drugs where the competition is scored in the 1/1000 of a second.

So Pac still lives on the streets in Manila does he?

I'll state it another way. Who is more likely to use designer drugs that are undetectable in a substance test?

Someone who grew up in a third world country, or someone nurtured to compete in the Olympics?

It is far more likely for the accuser and his family to be associated with the type of drugs mentioned, than it is for the accused.

Where they grew up & how makes absolutely fuck all difference. I don't personally think that Pac does take steroids, but him growing up in a third world country doesn't in any way make him less likely to.

Someone could argue that growing up malnutritioned in the third world would encourage Pac to turn to steroids once he was out of that situation in order to make up for the nutritional deficiencies he suffered in his youth, whilst Mayweather had grown up in the sport naturally. However, that argument would be just as weak & spurious as yours.

[fan johnny]

We have a difference of opinion. I think your opinion is just short sided.

Environment makes a big difference when it comes to exposure and opportunity.

"It's not what you know, it's who you know."

[AdamGB]

What makes more sense for a fighter to be on Steroids?

A fighter coming from environment in the streets of Manila or a fighter who's Olympic environment is exposed to designer drugs where the competition is scored in the 1/1000 of a second.

So Pac still lives on the streets in Manila does he?

I'll state it another way. Who is more likely to use designer drugs that are undetectable in a substance test?

Someone who grew up in a third world country, or someone nurtured to compete in the Olympics?

It is far more likely for the accuser and his family to be associated with the type of drugs mentioned, than it is for the accused.

Who's more likely to be taking banned performance enhancers?

An elite athlete at the pinnacle of his sport who earns millions

or

An elite athlete at the pinnacle of his sport who earns millions?

Hmmm that is a tough one?

(The answer is that they;re both as likely as each other)

[KalihiBoyHawaii]

So Pac still lives on the streets in Manila does he?

I'll state it another way. Who is more likely to use designer drugs that are undetectable in a substance test?

Someone who grew up in a third world country, or someone nurtured to compete in the Olympics?

It is far more likely for the accuser and his family to be associated with the type of drugs mentioned, than it is for the accused.

Who's more likely to be taking banned performance enhancers?

An elite athlete at the pinnacle of his sport who earns millions

or

An elite athlete at the pinnacle of his sport who earns millions?

Hmmm that is a tough one?

(The answer is that they;re both as likely as each other)

The more likely is one from a family who are known criminals. Floyd sr. went to jail for selling illegal drugs.

Pacquiao is a very religious and decent person that treats everyone with respect. On the other hand, the Mayweathers have been know to beat women, abuse their child, sell drugs, involve in shooting, evade tax laws, and treat people with disrespect.

So who is more likely to cheat, lie, break laws and use steroids?


Not so tough to surmise who is more likely.



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[mnmc10]

Like Ouma has said it wouldn't surprise me to learn of anybody doing it.

If you would be then I'd like to be the first to introduce you to 'professional sports'. Hi.

Thank you!

All I'll say is that it is hard jump from 105 to 140lbs of PURE muscle - If you guys can imagine 35lbs of pure muscle, it's a shocking amount. Imagine what 35lbs of chicken breasts or steaks would look like.

a mans average weight at 5'6" tall is 140lbs. and as we become older we tend to gain weight. he is actually going to fight cotto over his optimal boxing weight.

we cant base roids use on pacs weight...

whats amazing about boxers though is that they often fight at a much much lower weight that they are suppose to.



see chart:
http://www.halls.md/on/MenWeightOther.gif
between 20 to 30 yrs old we jump up in weight, the diff with pac and other fighters of the same height is that pac cant take off the weight to fight at lower weights anymore. the way he fights he uses alot of energy and we already saw what happened to pac when he fought at a weight that is not suitable for him.

plus here in the philippines roids or any performance enhancing drugs are pretty uncommon. he fights with that same energy from the day he started till now. so what makes sr. think that pac uses it?

[KananKrus]

Sr. sells his flimsy opinions as cold facts. This is irresponsible and reprehensible.

Every now and then though, there still are buyers and takers of these opinions, as Sr. with a practised ease, can really still be very convincing to the uninitiated. That is surprising, as his statements have bombed over and over again.

That he can still find listeners to his outrageous statements, is a testament to the world still at wide and have not acquired the smarts yet for its doors to close on jesters, clowns, village idiots, and the like.

[KalihiBoyHawaii]

Like Ouma has said it wouldn't surprise me to learn of anybody doing it.

If you would be then I'd like to be the first to introduce you to 'professional sports'. Hi.

Thank you!

Floyd Mayweather Sr isn't as stupid as he sounds...and it wouldn't surprise me one bit either but as others have said, you can have your opinions but can't go pointing fingers without proof.

All I'll say is that it is hard jump from 105 to 140lbs of PURE muscle - If you guys can imagine 35lbs of pure muscle, it's a shocking amount. Imagine what 35lbs of chicken breasts or steaks would look like.

Couple that with the fact that Pacquaio's training schedule would never allow him to put on significant size due to the amount of calories he must be burning in training for a fight. It's just not really going to happen.

I can understand him filling out slightly since he began but not to the tune of 35lbs of extra muscle.

But hey, I may be wrong and he might be a genetic superfreak because I'd certainly never like to accuse anybody

Pacquiao started fighting at pro at 16 years old. He lied about being 18 so that he could fight. He is now 30 years of age.
So that is 35 pounds added in 12 years. That's not a lot. That's only 2.9 pounds of muscle each year. He was basically forcing his body to stay at 130 for a while. That's why he wasn't is the usual attacking mode in the second Marquez fight.

When he added weight to fight Diaz, Pacquiao had more energy and was more agressive. In the Oscar fight, he was again more energetic and moved easily.

I'm about 5'10" and weight a round 185 with about 10% bodyfat.

I weighed 140 pounds when I was in high school.

A 140 pound, 30 year old man is not a lot. How many 30 year olds do you know weighing only140 pounds.



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