Let me clear Pac's 'steroids' issue, it's really simple.

[Taeth]

Mar

steriods can do everything from, faster speed, reflexes, enhanced stamina, enhanced power. It can't give you a better chin, but it can make your neck stronger which helps a lot.

However people who don't really pay attention to fighters spout this nonesense.

Pacquiao weighed 145 against marquez when they fought at 130.

He weighed 148 against David Diaz at 135
He weighed 148 against Hatton and De la Hoya, that isn't taking steriods. Its him not having to cut as much weight.

[pacfan]

The steroid issue is a serious accusation that I thought it deserves its own thread.

First off, when Pac fought at the superfeatherweight level, his walking weight was around 150lbs. Now fighting around the welterweight level, his walking weight is more or less the same at around 150lbs. Which means that at superfeatherweight, he was just dehydrating himself more, while at the welterweight level, he just go on training without worrying much about his weight; as a matter of fact, he try not to lose too much weight during training by gorging himself. So in reality, Pac didn't gain much real weight going up the weight classes. Can't those critics just give him credit for that...

It now has 3.

With all due respect Pacfan, his right it does have three now.

This whole steriod thing came from a mayweather, I would think of all people you'd know this topic deserves very little attention.

You forgot the 'Sir' with capital S. C'mon Julius, stop treating me like your wife...

Yup it deserves very little attention but I saw around dozen new articles regarding the issue so it ain't laffing matter.

Mar

steriods can do everything from, faster speed, reflexes, enhanced stamina, enhanced power. It can't give you a better chin, but it can make your neck stronger which helps a lot.

However people who don't really pay attention to fighters spout this nonesense.

Pacquiao weighed 145 against marquez when they fought at 130.

He weighed 148 against David Diaz at 135
He weighed 148 against Hatton and De la Hoya, that isn't taking steriods. Its him not having to cut as much weight.

'nuff said. Thanks buddy.
This should clear things up...

[CFH]

I don't think there's any real reason to think Pacquiao has been doing steroids (no more so than any other modern athlete).

[Violent Demise]

I don't think there's any real reason to think Pacquiao has been doing steroids (no more so than any other modern athlete).

He's never tested dirty. So he can't be accused of it. But really I wouldn't be surprised if 2 years down the road we see Manny in front of congress.

Pacquiao: I no do steroids. Me no know why test come out dirty. Yes, Freddie poked me in ass a lot. But me never see no needle in his hand when he did. Freddie promised it was only protein.

[JT Rock]

I don't think there's any real reason to think Pacquiao has been doing steroids (no more so than any other modern athlete).

He's never tested dirty. So he can't be accused of it. But really I wouldn't be surprised if 2 years down the road we see Manny in front of congress.

Pacquiao: I no do steroids. Me no know why test come out dirty. Yes, Freddie poked me in ass a lot. But me never see no needle in his hand when he did. Freddie promised it was only protein.

HAHAHA!!

[fan johnny]

Mar

steriods can do everything from, faster speed, reflexes, enhanced stamina, enhanced power. It can't give you a better chin, but it can make your neck stronger which helps a lot.

However people who don't really pay attention to fighters spout this nonesense.

Pacquiao weighed 145 against marquez when they fought at 130.

He weighed 148 against David Diaz at 135
He weighed 148 against Hatton and De la Hoya, that isn't taking steriods. Its him not having to cut as much weight.

So what's Mayweather Sr. got to say about Marquez and what if Marquez knock's out Mayeather Jr.

I'm certainly no expert about what it is specifically that makes the knockout, but I would think that the graphic explainations showing a concision from the brain slamming against the back of the head would have more impact if the is less flexibility in the neck.

YouTube - The Anatomy Of The One Punch Knockout

[Taeth]

The more the head moves the harder the collision is on the brain, thats why when you keep your chin tucked in, even when you get hit, it doesn't hurt as much, thats because your head can move as much from impact if the chin is tucked in, but have it up and the head flies back which makes the damage done to the chin way worse.

[fan johnny]

The more the head moves the harder the collision is on the brain, thats why when you keep your chin tucked in, even when you get hit, it doesn't hurt as much, thats because your head can move as much from impact if the chin is tucked in, but have it up and the head flies back which makes the damage done to the chin way worse.

I think I understand your point about a harder collision. I was thinking how the hell does a drunk get away with having less damage when they are limp than people who brace for the impact. Or in other another thought I had was moving with the blow rather than against it.