Don't see it

[KKisser]

you have to remember the marquez pac is at par with was at 130lbs. i didn't see anything in the floyd-marquez fight that i didn't expect. marquez doesn't carry the extra weight well, even when he fought at 135 he was already struggling. i believe pac would also dominate this version of jmm that fought tonight. although i would favor floyd over pac, i don't think it would be as easy as the way he dismantled marquez. pac imo would have a real chance.

[Truth]

1st of all styles make fights.
2) Marquez had no business fighting @ 144 or what was supposed to be 144 Pac would've KOed the JMM who fought tonight
3) Pac is a completely different animal than Marquez first off because of the southpaw stance and because he is the only fighter since Judah (another quick southpaw) who will have the speed to trouble Mayweather

[Howlin Mad Missy]

by turning pac in to more of a boxer does that make him more readible for Mayweather?

[Spicoli]

Mighty mega Manny had better focus on Cotto .

[KKisser]

yup, pac gotta beat cotto first before we even start talking floyd.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

speed kills. Mayweather's only saving grace is his speed. If he didn't have twice the speed of every other boxer he would have been ko'd long ago.

[bcollins]

That's all it takes, though.

[rjj tszyu]

speed kills. Mayweather's only saving grace is his speed. If he didn't have twice the speed of every other boxer he would have been ko'd long ago.

WTF What about his defensive prowess? What about his unreal timing? What about his ability to adapt to an opponent even when he seems like he may be in for a fight early on like against Oscar? What about the fact that when he has taken shots (he took a couple last night and took some good ones against De La Hoya) he doesn't look at all fazed. His Dad had one of the best chins I've ever seen and I think PBF has inherited that!

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

speed kills. Mayweather's only saving grace is his speed. If he didn't have twice the speed of every other boxer he would have been ko'd long ago.

WTF What about his defensive prowess? What about his unreal timing? What about his ability to adapt to an opponent even when he seems like he may be in for a fight early on like against Oscar? What about the fact that when he has taken shots (he took a couple last night and took some good ones against De La Hoya) he doesn't look at all fazed. His Dad had one of the best chins I've ever seen and I think PBF has inherited that!

His defence looks great because he has twice the speed of his opponents. If he didn't have that speed his defence wouldn't look so good because he would be hit with at least 400 punches per fight. Since his speed is that great, he's lucky to get hit with 100 punches per fight. His speed is keeping him from being hit. Therefore his defence wouldn't work as good without the speed.

[BIG H]

Mighty mega Manny had better focus on Cotto .

Totally agree! I think Cotto is gonna batter him tbh

[rjj tszyu]

Mighty mega Manny had better focus on Cotto .

Totally agree! I think Cotto is gonna batter him tbh

I think that one has the making of FOTY!

[Pugilistic]

I disagree.

The problem with Marquez tonight was that he was clearly too small and too slow to deal with the natural bigger, stronger, faster fighter.

Marquez shouldn't be anywhere near 147 and it showed last night, the difference in handspeed was alot more than i expected. Marquez was clearly slower than normal in that department.

Pacquiao on other hand, can fight effectively at 147 and maintain his speed, power, etc.

With Pacquiao' speed and southpaw style, he should be able to cause Mayweather some problems, especially more than what Marquez caused anyway.

I would still pick Mayweather to win though.

[Hunter]

I agree with VD - At this point I think Pac would take a beating from Mayweather.....Mayweather is just to smart, has great defense (part of this is he doesnt take risks), and is blazing fast.....Pac would leave himself open and get peppered from the outset......

I would root for the pacman but cant see him winning this one. I think Mayweather even roughs up Mosley and Cotto.....Mosley would probably give him the best fight but Floyd is a dam good pure boxer....

[OumaFan]

I find it hard to pick anybody against Mayweather, he's a douche but he's an amazing fighter. But Pacquaio presents different challenges for Mayweather.

He's at least as fast and you've got to be fast against Floyd, but probably more importantly he's got the footwork and footspeed to cause Floyd problems. He doesn't have to his feet set to punch, which is such an underrated thing when going up against guys like Mayweather and Hopkins, and he's got the footspeed to get in and out against Mayweather. In contrast, JMM's footwork and footspeed caused Floyd NO problems. This is very important and nobody ever talks about it. Hatton's footspeed allowed him to get inside on Floyd but Floyd beat him up because he was stronger and a better in fighter. Manny can get in but he won't languish there, he'll get in and get out.

Finally, and this is disregarding Manny's power which you shouldn't do, he's a southpaw and he throws punches from odd angles at times, which is much tougher than a righty because Floyd's defense is set up for right handers, he keeps the right hand up to block left hooks and rolls his shoulder to block right hands, this is thrown off by southpaws and the Mayweather camp has always freely admitted they didn't love him fighting southpaws.

Manny's got a much better chance to win. He also, because he'll FORCE Floyd to open up more, has a better chance of getting KO'd than JMM did. I still haven't made my pick. I've never given serious consideration to Floyd losing so that's something.

[OumaFan]

Floyd's speed isn't the only reason for his defensive success. He's got fantastic defensive fundamentals. Better than other super athletic guys like Roy.