Huge Credit to Marquez

[Gandalf]

Dude, let it go. The fight would have happened the same way no matter what weight the fight was at. Unless you think Marquez landing 68 punches while landing 59 percent of all his punches on him the entire fight had anything to do with Mayweather's size then by all means take credit from Mayweather.

Possibly. I had always said Marquez would need a miracle to try and pull this one out. But still. I see nothing cool about not making a contract weight and then possibly coming in 3 weight classes above what your opponent is. Punch for punch Mayweathers punches would have had much more impact than those of Marquez. He wasn't going to win anyway, but those pre fight antics were really rubbing salt into the wounds. He was never in the fight.

Mayweather has really turned me off with all of this. It's got so bad that I think I would even be supporting Manny Pac in a Mayweather/Pac fight!

did the fact Mayweather made Marquez only land about 68 punches the entire night have anything to do with the weight? Did the fact Mayweather was able to land at will have anything to do with his weight? Mayweather would catch Marquez at any weight and he didn't have to overpower him. Marquez just couldn't catch him and had no answer for the things he did.

The contracted weight was 147 but Mayweather would be fined for every pound he was over 144. And even Emanuel Stewart said something to this effect but personally any fighter in Mayweather's position who didn't do what he did would have been stupid to think "Well im gonna drain myself to make the weight so I don't have to pay a fine". It's not like a Pacquiao fight where its in the CONTRACT you can't come in, in that contract it was selective and you can't blame Mayweather for choosing not to disadvantage himself if it wasn't mandatory. It's kind of stupid to weaken yourself prior to even getting in the ring and it's not like Marquez was worried about not making 144 so It's not like he held back on training to make sure he didn't go over 144 either.

Think about if, if it was in the Cotto vs Pacquiao fight that Cotto could come in at 147 if he wanted but would be fined for any limit over 144 against Pacquiao do you THINK that he would say "well I'm gonna drain myself to not pay this fine" or would he say "fuck that I'm coming in at 147 this guy isn't gonna get an inch" And Cotto would come in at 147 and nobody would say shit.

Like I said, Marquez was likely to lose anyway. But you can't fight competitively with a guy that outweighs you by 15-20 pounds, especially if it is Mayweather. The public was led to believe that the fight was for 144 pounds, that's how it was marketed. It seems that a week before the fight Mayweathers camp made overtures to Marquez and Marquez conceded that Mayweather could come in heavier if he paid the penalty. It's the fighters obligation to come in at the expected weight. It's hard work boiling down? Well, you should have thought of that before making the fight.

In the case of the Cotto fight, I think if the penalty was a million dollars per pound then I think Cotto might well try to guarantee that he makes the weight.

Mayweather put on a very good display, but with all those advantages Marquez was never in it. Down in the second and seemingly gun shy for large parts of the fight. The weight affected Marquez very badly. Both his own weight which slowed him down and appear laboured and Mayweathers weight which made Marquez look so small. But not only the weight...also the reach and height advantages too. Marquez had little to offer in response to that.

Mayweather needs to cut out this business of fighting smaller men and get in there with proper WW's who are used to the weight and hit hard.