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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
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    I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

    Great win for Mayweather though.
    How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
    Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills
    Really? Then maybe he should have gone down to 135 or 130. He couldn't be arsed to make 144!
    I don't know if he could physically make 144 or not, but its not like he came in
    and used his weight to bully Marquez around the ring, my point is his skills
    won him the fight not his weight, hence it didn't really matter what weight he
    came in at. Do you think the fight would have been any different if he came in at 144 or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
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    How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
    Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills
    Really? Then maybe he should have gone down to 135 or 130. He couldn't be arsed to make 144!
    I don't know if he could physically make 144 or not, but its not like he came in
    and used his weight to bully Marquez around the ring, my point is his skills
    won him the fight not his weight, hence it didn't really matter what weight he
    came in at. Do you think the fight would have been any different if he came in at 144 or less?
    It isn't his weight; it is their weight. Mayweather doesn't use his size like Vlad uses his size as he doesn't bully his opponents or keep them off with his superior reach and jab. However, when he is fighting a smaller opponent it is easier for Floyd to use his defensive prowess to stay out of reach and win on the cards. Hatton and DLH looked TONS better than Marquez against Mayweather. In fact, in his whole career other than the first Castillo fight, DLH came closest to beating Floyd because it wasn't as easy to stay away from DLH. Pacquiao will suffer the same result as Marquez because he won't be able to close the distance.

    The fight wouldn't have been any different at 144 because Marquez would still be a blown up lightweight.

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post

    How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
    Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills
    Really? Then maybe he should have gone down to 135 or 130. He couldn't be arsed to make 144!
    I don't know if he could physically make 144 or not, but its not like he came in
    and used his weight to bully Marquez around the ring, my point is his skills
    won him the fight not his weight, hence it didn't really matter what weight he
    came in at. Do you think the fight would have been any different if he came in at 144 or less?
    You did the part I highlighted? Where it was claimed that PBF would beat Marquez at ANY weight. Marquez moved up out of his comfort zone and got handed do you think Floyd would have boiled down to meet Marquez? Of course not.

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    i agree with you now.

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