Lets be honest about last night!!!!

[Kel]

He lost to both Forrest and Winky by the way. So they are counted for him just taking them on but not losing twice to both? Hell Trinidad has Winky on his record, want to give him credit for losing too? Mosley also lost to Cotto, the only people on that 4 Mosley has beaten was Margarito.

now lets look at Floyds

G. Hernandez, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez.

Mayweather beat them all.

In fact putting all those names on Shanes resume. You say, Forrest, Wright, Cotto, De La Hoya. The only person Shane beat was Oscar. And even that was debatable the second time around.

Castillo beat him and the rest were at the end of their careers. The elite stopped Judah, Gatti was battered by DLH before his wars with Ward years before and stopped quicker, Hoya was at the end of his career, Baldomir was a one off lucky 'Rocky story', Hatton was crap at Welter as was Marquez. Shane has lost fights because he has fought the best and most dangerous guys around while they were in their PRIME!

Surely you know your talking rubbish

Pacquiao lost to Marquez twice, even more clear the second time around. When Mayweather fought Castillo the second time around he beat him easily, he didn't struggle worse.

Hatton, De La Hoya, Barerra and Morales were at the end of their careers when Pacquiao fought them and De La Hoya and Hatton are the two fights that vaulted him to the number 1 p4p spot, but when Mayweather does it first and when they are a lot fresher then when they fought Pacquiao then you take credit from him? So who is the one talking rubbish here?

I was talking about Floyd not Pac. Which bits confusing you? I reply to your post regarding Floyd and Shane and you start talking about Pacman.

I give up man you avoid the issue all the time so to hell with it lol