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    Default Re: Lets be honest about last night!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    How was it 2 weight classes? Also why the hell should Floyd get the same credit Marquez would have got should HE won? Marquez was there for a payday anyone with half a brain knew it was a total mis-match from the get go, the weight issue enhanced the ridiculousness of the whole thing.

    So Marquez trained his butt off for all those months and spent time away from his family and children, made sacrifices and drank his own piss just to show up and get a payday? You're making less and less sense. He tried as hard and as hard as he could but had no answer for Mayweatehr's style. Mayweather beats Marquez at any weight. And Floyd weighed in at 150 against Oscar while Oscar weighed in at the limit of 154, didn't hear people complaining there. Floyd still won that fight too. Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins both moved up two weight classes respectively and won their bouts as well.

    You seriously need to get your cock out of Floyds arse, for starters if Jones was fighting Lennox Lewis you would have a point but he fought John Ruiz, secondly remind me did Hopkins move back down to Middleweight after moving up? Do you think JMM will be now campaigning at 147??

    Come on take them floyd glasses off mate.
    What point are you trying to make?

    Fact of the matter is fighters have been successful when they've moved up two weight classes. Even Mosley went from Lightweight to Welterweight to beat De La Hoya but I haven't mentioned him because he had some fights prior. Roy Jones and Hopkins have done it both. And no, Hopkins didn't move back to Middleweight but it doesn't take away from the fact Hopkins was a natural Middleweight and would often weigh in under the middleweight limit, he even weighed 155 for the De La Hoya fight. He still moved up to fight Tarver who was at the time the best light heavyweight in the world and demolished him. Regardless of what Hopkins did afterwards he still accomplished it so it's nothing that isn't unheard of. You need to take off the Floyd hater glasses. And I'm not even riding Floyd I'm just naming fighters that have been successful in Marquez's position and suddenly I'm riding Floyd? Points are, people have been in Marquez's position, other hall of fame fighters current hall of fame fighters have been successful in Marquez's position. The fact of the matter is Marquez would always lose to Mayweather and its stupid to even try to state that Floyd beat Marquez simply because he weighed more. So I don't know what point you were trying to make but naming other fighters that have been successful in Marquez's position(Mayweather included) is not riding Floyd. If I was using this win to boost him to the top of everyones p4p list while saying he walks on water then you'd have a point. But I haven't so quit overreacting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    How was it 2 weight classes? Also why the hell should Floyd get the same credit Marquez would have got should HE won? Marquez was there for a payday anyone with half a brain knew it was a total mis-match from the get go, the weight issue enhanced the ridiculousness of the whole thing.

    So Marquez trained his butt off for all those months and spent time away from his family and children, made sacrifices and drank his own piss just to show up and get a payday? You're making less and less sense. He tried as hard and as hard as he could but had no answer for Mayweatehr's style. Mayweather beats Marquez at any weight. And Floyd weighed in at 150 against Oscar while Oscar weighed in at the limit of 154, didn't hear people complaining there. Floyd still won that fight too. Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins both moved up too weight classes respectively and won their bouts as well.
    That's what a training camp involves usually (apart from piss drinking).

    Why have RJJ and Hopkins joined the party now anyway? Most fighter move up in weight but not 2 weight classes for a specific fight

    I can't debate with you man you don't address the issues I bring up.
    Yes and considering what Marquez went through it makes it all the more stupid for you to say that Marquez was just there for a pay day.

    As far as issues you already brought up, I already addressed you about Shane which you didn't reply to, so you must have missed that. So here it is again

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Apparently you made this before I added the information about Shane.

    So let me put it here

    And no matter what kind of spin you want to put on Shane's losses, he still lost them, if Mayweather were to fight Wright and lose no one would say that it was because he was willing to fight the best they'd use it as an excuse to say he wasn't the best anyway. And Forrest made his name off of destroying Shane Mosley, prior to that he was an unknown . So who is the one talking rubbish here? Get over the hate. After he beat Oscar he fought a bunch of nobodies until Forrest wrecked him, and then went on to lose again, and then fought Wright and lost one sidedly, and then lost again to Wright.

    Like I said, if Floyd had those losses on his record people wouldn't say "it's a testament to how great Floyd is to fight the best" they'd say "whenever he stepped up to some REAL competition he got beaten" and thats just how it is. Its a double standard when it comes to people like Floyd and people like Mosley. You make up two different sets of rules depending on which fighter you like more. Don't blame Floyd for winning and don't credit Mosley for losing. Floyd wanted a piece of Shane a long long time ago back and Shane didn't want it. The only reason Shane wants Floyd now is because it would get him one final pay day to go off into the sunset on. That's where the most money is. If Shane wanted a challenge he'd be fighting the people everyone is saying Floyd should be fighting. Why isn't Mosley moving up to 154 to fight Paul Williams? Why does Floyd have to be the one to do it? Why does Floyd have to fight Berto? Shouldn't Shane be trying to make that fight? Shane is as much after mega paydays as Floyd is and will cherry pick just as bad if he wants to make his money. But people only acknowledge when Floyd does it because he is easier to hate.
    Last edited by Majesty; 09-22-2009 at 01:18 AM.
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