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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=JT Rock;789397]
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post


    Instead of asking why Mosley is begging for a fight a better question is

    Why is Floyd always looking for a way to avoid one?
    Yea just like if my Aunt was a man she be my Uncle, what the hell does your comment have to do with anything relevant to the convo? Mosely is on the outside looking in and begged for a Pac fight then begged for a Mayweather fight

    Floyd said the same thing everyone else says when challenged TALK TO MY PROMOTER AND MANAGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he didnt deny anything.

    Dont you dare give me that low ball shit either? You will be the 1st to try to tell everybody how wrong they are about the business of boxing but you are going to conveniently ignore the economics since it suits your argument. Mosely is not a big draw, never has and with a few fights left probably never will, so who does the lions share of the purse go to Daxx huh? who does it go to? Are you going to bullshit me now and tell me Mosely is a bigger draw than Mayweather? Also where is your source of this supposed low ball offer, because thats the 1st I have heard about it? Mosely was asked why he didnt fight mayweather post fight after collazzo I think and Shane said he had a loose tooth and wanted to snowboard or some shit and not talk about it

    Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

    BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

    Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

    Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

    When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

    Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

    And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

    OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

    I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

    As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

    So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

    OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=DaxxKahn;789437]
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post

    Yea just like if my Aunt was a man she be my Uncle, what the hell does your comment have to do with anything relevant to the convo? Mosely is on the outside looking in and begged for a Pac fight then begged for a Mayweather fight

    Floyd said the same thing everyone else says when challenged TALK TO MY PROMOTER AND MANAGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he didnt deny anything.

    Dont you dare give me that low ball shit either? You will be the 1st to try to tell everybody how wrong they are about the business of boxing but you are going to conveniently ignore the economics since it suits your argument. Mosely is not a big draw, never has and with a few fights left probably never will, so who does the lions share of the purse go to Daxx huh? who does it go to? Are you going to bullshit me now and tell me Mosely is a bigger draw than Mayweather? Also where is your source of this supposed low ball offer, because thats the 1st I have heard about it? Mosely was asked why he didnt fight mayweather post fight after collazzo I think and Shane said he had a loose tooth and wanted to snowboard or some shit and not talk about it

    Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

    BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

    Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

    Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

    When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

    Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

    And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

    OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

    I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

    As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

    So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

    OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?
    Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

    Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

    Please humor me and answer those 3 questions

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=JT Rock;789443]
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post


    Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

    BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

    Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

    Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

    When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

    Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

    And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

    OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

    I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

    As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

    So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

    OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?
    Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

    Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

    Please humor me and answer those 3 questions
    No I won't say Floyd should not have fought Baldomir but what about defending the title?

    If you want to move to 154 fine but again what about defending the title? Or is the fact you only managed a SD against a fighter past his best make you decide not to?

    Sure take the fight with Hatton a natural JWW but what about when he was a JWW and again what about defending it?....NO wait Bruseles and Corley 1 shot the other second tier at best before winning a title should be enough to go on?

    So answer my questions now

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=JT Rock;789443]
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post


    Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

    BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

    Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

    Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

    When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

    Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

    And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

    OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

    I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

    As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

    So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

    OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?
    Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

    Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

    Please humor me and answer those 3 questions
    No I won't say Floyd should not have fought Baldomir but what about defending the title?

    If you want to move to 154 fine but again what about defending the title? Or is the fact you only managed a SD against a fighter past his best make you decide not to?

    Sure take the fight with Hatton a natural JWW but what about when he was a JWW and again what about defending it?....NO wait Bruseles and Corley 1 shot the other second tier at best before winning a title should be enough to go on?

    So I answered your questions dont act like Mayweather with a legit challenge in front of him and avoid mine
    Last edited by DaxxKahn; 09-22-2009 at 04:15 PM.

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=JT Rock;789443]
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post


    Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

    BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

    Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

    Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

    When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

    Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

    And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

    OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

    I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

    As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

    So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

    OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?
    Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

    Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

    Please humor me and answer those 3 questions
    I'll try to answer the questions. We understand the motivation was money. We get it. Floyd has boxed his whole life and deserved the Hatton and DLH pay offs. That explains why he chose the Hatton and DLH fights, but it doesn't mean the choices don't merit criticism and it doesn't explain why he chose Marquez (although I understand it was his come-back fight). Fighters who endear themselves to their fans are fighters who consistently challenge themselves and go into fights as underdogs. Maybe it is because of money, but Floyd hasn't fought a true dominant welterweight and he has fought there for five years.

    As boxing fans, is it wrong for us to expect more from the p4p best fighter in the world?

    Oh and I don't excuse Shane and Bernard's actions, but they did it because how else are they going to get Floyd in the ring with Shane or get Shane any sort of big fight?

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=Rantcatrat;789450]
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post

    Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

    Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

    Please humor me and answer those 3 questions
    I'll try to answer the questions. We understand the motivation was money. We get it. Floyd has boxed his whole life and deserved the Hatton and DLH pay offs. That explains why he chose the Hatton and DLH fights, but it doesn't mean the choices don't merit criticism and it doesn't explain why he chose Marquez (although I understand it was his come-back fight). Fighters who endear themselves to their fans are fighters who consistently challenge themselves and go into fights as underdogs. Maybe it is because of money, but Floyd hasn't fought a true dominant welterweight and he has fought there for five years.

    As boxing fans, is it wrong for us to expect more from the p4p best fighter in the world?

    Oh and I don't excuse Shane and Bernard's actions, but they did it because how else are they going to get Floyd in the ring with Shane or get Shane any sort of big fight?

    Well said

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=DaxxKahn;789451]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    I'll try to answer the questions. We understand the motivation was money. We get it. Floyd has boxed his whole life and deserved the Hatton and DLH pay offs. That explains why he chose the Hatton and DLH fights, but it doesn't mean the choices don't merit criticism and it doesn't explain why he chose Marquez (although I understand it was his come-back fight). Fighters who endear themselves to their fans are fighters who consistently challenge themselves and go into fights as underdogs. Maybe it is because of money, but Floyd hasn't fought a true dominant welterweight and he has fought there for five years.

    As boxing fans, is it wrong for us to expect more from the p4p best fighter in the world?

    Oh and I don't excuse Shane and Bernard's actions, but they did it because how else are they going to get Floyd in the ring with Shane or get Shane any sort of big fight?

    Well said
    Daxx you have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a hater. Congrats you brought Bruseles and Corley into the conversation although they were both WBC junior welterweight title eliminators Corley being rated in the top 10 by Ring Magazine at the time was from shot to pieces with 2 losses and 1 draw.

    Bruseles sucked but name me a fighter that has no junk on their record from time to time.

    at least Rantcatrat did a fair job making his points
    Last edited by JT Rock; 09-22-2009 at 05:19 PM.

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [QUOTE=JT Rock;789474]
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post


    Well said
    Daxx you have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a hater. Congrats you brought Bruseles and Corley into the conversation although they were both WBC junior welterweight title eliminators Corley being rated in the top 10 by Ring Magazine at the time was from shot to pieces with 2 losses and 1 draw.

    Bruseles sucked but name me a fighter that has no junk on their record from time to time.

    at least Rantcatrat did a fair job making his points
    spoken like a true nutthugger

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    Default Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags

    [quote=ElTerribleMorales;789482]
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post

    Daxx you have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a hater. Congrats you brought Bruseles and Corley into the conversation although they were both WBC junior welterweight title eliminators Corley being rated in the top 10 by Ring Magazine at the time was from shot to pieces with 2 losses and 1 draw.

    Bruseles sucked but name me a fighter that has no junk on their record from time to time.

    at least Rantcatrat did a fair job making his points
    spoken like a true nutthugger

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    [quote=JT Rock;789474]
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post


    Well said
    Daxx you have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a hater. Congrats you brought Bruseles and Corley into the conversation although they were both WBC junior welterweight title eliminators Corley being rated in the top 10 by Ring Magazine at the time was from shot to pieces with 2 losses and 1 draw.

    Bruseles sucked but name me a fighter that has no junk on their record from time to time.

    at least Rantcatrat did a fair job making his points
    Corley had lost to Judah the fight before, and other then Bailey he had been fighting mostly third tier opp...His other loss was against a guy no one can name off the top of their head..

    As for being an eliminator....Lets not pretend a fighter with a steller record a stellar performances are the only ones in line for title shots or participate in eliminators...

    Since the Floyd fight Corley has lost over 70% of his bouts and that is not because Floyd ruined him I promise

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