How do Americans feel about the way Native Americans were treated?

[Oggie]

Am I allowed into this thread fella's?
I couldn't see any 'No Irish' sign at the door, so I said I'd just stumble in to have a gawk about the place, right so...

[El Kabong]

Damn, no Irish and no Blacks.....now those were the days! Just us whites, asians, middle easterners, jews, gypsies, and indigenous peoples....and MAYBE the Scottish only if they wear pants






.....joking of course

[killersheep]

I feel bad about the way they were treated in the past, they got shafted big time. Arizona has the largest amount of reservations in the US if I'm not mistaken and while some that are by the metro areas (Phoenix, Tucson and to a lesser extent Flagstaff) do relatively well from the casinos, there are plenty by four corners that really struggle with land that is infertile and out of the way. My family donates socks and blankets twice a year to help them out.
There has been a huge rise in violent crime recently in Native communities and it is disheartening, but there has also been a push from the native american church to diminish the violence with efforts to get people involved in productive things such as ceremonies, crafting and construction.

As for the original point, not sure what you are getting at............
Were you looking for someone to say "Hell yeah we kicked their asses?"

[CFH]

Am I allowed into this thread fella's?
I couldn't see any 'No Irish' sign at the door, so I said I'd just stumble in to have a gawk about the place, right so...

Everyone knows that 99% of the Irish are illiterate anyways, and the other 1% is so blindingly drunk they can't see let alone read.

[BoxingGorilla]

It all worked out for the best.

I feel as bad as I can about something that happened so long before time.


I just read a book that has a chapter about Wounded Knee. Who started it, was the question.

Amazon.com: Unsolved Mysteries of American History: An Eye-Opening Journey through 500 Years of Discoveries, Disappearances, and Baffling Events (9780471283683): Paul Aron: Books

[Nameless]

I can hardly believe that some think that they are ok today;

Sure, they have a problem with alcohol because they do not have the same hormones as us to digest alcohol but once again, it would blatantly fool to think that the white man didn't take opportunity over it to shove down anything they wanted capitalizing on their crave for alcohol.
When you look down on history, you see how the white man was scornful toward them and how they battered them in any way possible, from the forced conversion to christianity to the land looting and less we forget how some strategy were developed to kill as many wild cows as possible in order to starve some of the tribes.
Sure, we did give them some compensations and some privileges but that is so minor compared to everything that has been done and it appears clear to me that from en environment point of view, they were 1000 times better before the arrival of the white men and neither did they lack of anything at all.
Sure as well, we didn't talk (to answer to Lyle) about what Sherman did to the sudists, which is horrible as well but the topic in course was what we did to the natives, the quasi genocide of a people.
When you look at the casinos and such today that they build, peoples have to realize that it is a very SLIM minority in the reserves that get the real benefices from it. Close to where I live in Quebec (well, 3 hours away, more or less) there is a few of these reserves, I went myself to visit as I was wondering how it looks like.... and i say that all of those who think that it is pink and candy should visit it, I've been horribly shocked about what I've seen, seriously.
Can we repare what have been done? I am not sure. NOt sure at all. Still, it is not a reason to not feel ashamed by what happened, I am not directly responsible for it, my personal ancesters arrived after the so called "massacre" but still, I feel bad for what happened, especially knowing that wouldn't have the white man landed here, everything would be much better.

[Oggie]

Am I allowed into this thread fella's?
I couldn't see any 'No Irish' sign at the door, so I said I'd just stumble in to have a gawk about the place, right so...

Everyone knows that 99% of the Irish are illiterate anyways, and the other 1% is so blindingly drunk they can't see let alone read.

Why yes, that is a top-hat I'm wearing, thanks for asking.

[CFH]

Am I allowed into this thread fella's?
I couldn't see any 'No Irish' sign at the door, so I said I'd just stumble in to have a gawk about the place, right so...

Everyone knows that 99% of the Irish are illiterate anyways, and the other 1% is so blindingly drunk they can't see let alone read.

Why yes, that is a top-hat I'm wearing, thanks for asking.

And a fine top hat it is sir, now bring me some potatoes and whiskey.

Speaking of drunken Irishmen, I'm going to see the Pogues in just over two weeks. I can't wait. They're one of my all-time favorite bands.

[porkypara]

Everyone knows that 99% of the Irish are illiterate anyways, and the other 1% is so blindingly drunk they can't see let alone read.

Why yes, that is a top-hat I'm wearing, thanks for asking.

And a fine top hat it is sir, now bring me some potatoes and whiskey.

Speaking of drunken Irishmen, I'm going to see the Pogues in just over two weeks. I can't wait. They're one of my all-time favorite bands.

I just got tickets for the Saw Doctors who are an other good Irish band.

[Scrap]

From the Year Dot losers have never been treated fairly. Winners write History,The English took my Heritage away, now Im English but still feel Irish Fuck them, plus the Germans Bombed our Chip shop Cunts .

[Nameless]

Everyone knows that 99% of the Irish are illiterate anyways, and the other 1% is so blindingly drunk they can't see let alone read.

Why yes, that is a top-hat I'm wearing, thanks for asking.

And a fine top hat it is sir, now bring me some potatoes and whiskey.

Speaking of drunken Irishmen, I'm going to see the Pogues in just over two weeks. I can't wait. They're one of my all-time favorite bands.

LUCKY YOU, where do they play?

[CFH]

Why yes, that is a top-hat I'm wearing, thanks for asking.

And a fine top hat it is sir, now bring me some potatoes and whiskey.

Speaking of drunken Irishmen, I'm going to see the Pogues in just over two weeks. I can't wait. They're one of my all-time favorite bands.

LUCKY YOU, where do they play?

Seattle, which is arguably my favorite city in the world. Perhaps a close second to Tokyo.

[Oggie]

Everyone knows that 99% of the Irish are illiterate anyways, and the other 1% is so blindingly drunk they can't see let alone read.

Why yes, that is a top-hat I'm wearing, thanks for asking.

And a fine top hat it is sir, now bring me some potatoes and whiskey.

Speaking of drunken Irishmen, I'm going to see the Pogues in just over two weeks. I can't wait. They're one of my all-time favorite bands.

The Pogues are fan-fooking-tastic man!
Shane MacGowan is one of the most underrated frontmen there is. There are not many his equal when it comes to lyrical prowess, and his vocals are at times, astonishing.
A true legend of music!

[CFH]

Why yes, that is a top-hat I'm wearing, thanks for asking.

And a fine top hat it is sir, now bring me some potatoes and whiskey.

Speaking of drunken Irishmen, I'm going to see the Pogues in just over two weeks. I can't wait. They're one of my all-time favorite bands.

The Pogues are fan-fooking-tastic man!
Shane MacGowan is one of the most underrated frontmen there is. There are not many his equal when it comes to lyrical prowess, and his vocals are at times, astonishing.
A true legend of music!

I love his lyrics and his vocal style. Totally original. I'm really looking forward to the show, but I'm a bit apprehensive about which Shane MacGowan is going to show up, the charismatic, albeit drunken, frontman or the slobbering, stumbling wreck who mumbles his way through half-forgotten songs. Either way it should be fun.

[Cortez The Killer]

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